RE: LAB exam SP

From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Thu Mar 15 2007 - 09:18:26 ART


There's a number of networks from that list that have been deprecated from
filtering (e.g. they've been assigned!)...

But You should already know the RFC 1918 ones (included), then others should
be obvious:

127/8 Loopbacks
169.254/16 Microsoft
224/4 Multicast
240/4 Research

Then there's the first and last class of each class grouping:

0/8 and 127/8 (above)
128/16 and 191.255/16
192.0.0/24 and 223.255.255/24

Then there are some odd ones for testing purposes:

192.0.2/24
198.18/15

All the rest have been otherwise allocated.

So if you just understand the breakdowns there, honestly, about the only
thing to really memorize (something new anyway) are those two testing
networks.

Just my thoughts. Yes, it's irritating, but not that bad!

 
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
#153, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
IPexpert VP - Curriculum Development
IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
smorris@ipexpert.com
http://www.ipexpert.com
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Koen
Zeilstra
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:55 AM
To: Marvin Greenlee
Cc: sheherezada@gmail.com; 'Suzan S.'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: LAB exam SP

If we are talking RFC 3330, that is a whole bunch of numbers to memorize!

0.0.0.0/8
10.0.0.0/8
14.0.0.0/8
24.0.0.0/8
39.0.0.0/8
127.0.0.0/8
128.0.0.0/16
169.254.0.0/16
172.16.0.0/12
191.255.0.0/16
192.0.0.0/24
192.0.2.0/24
192.88.99.0/24
192.168.0.0/16
198.18.0.0/15
223.255.255.0/24
224.0.0.0/4
240.0.0.0/4

Are you sure there's is no information to be found on the doc CD about this?
In my opionion a SP CCIE should know every tiny biy of all the techniques
and protocols on the blue print but NOT memorize lists like this.

Cheers,

Koen

On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Marvin Greenlee wrote:

| In general, it's usually not that they specifically remove command
| options, or syntax information, but individual IOS versions may vary
| as far as what they will support.
|
| RFCs have always been fair game when they have been relevant to the track.
| RFC 1918 and 3330, for example, used to be explicitly listed on the SP
| blueprint. Most people are familiar with 1918, but 3330 is not as
| well known. It's definitely one that would be relevant to the track.
| RFC 2827, for example, is explicitly listed on the security lab
| blueprint, but could also apply to service provider environments.
|
| There are often multiple ways that a task can be achieved.
| Successfully navigating through a CCIE lab usually requires knowing
| multiple methods to complete a specific task.
|
|
|
|
| Marvin Greenlee, CCIE #12237 (R&S, SP, Sec) Senior Technical
| Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
| "When Will You Be an IP Expert?"
| marvin@ipexpert.com
| http://www.IPexpert.com
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
| Of sheherezada@gmail.com
| Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 5:56 AM
| To: Suzan S.
| Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
| Subject: Re: LAB exam SP
|
| Some routers may have help disabled for some command subsets or even
| some configuration options may be disabled (sorry, can not disclsose
| examples). One idea is to check the syntax on another router from the
| lab.
|
| And yes, I had one question that specifically referred to a RFC I did
| not know. There was no mention about this RFC in the doc CD (double
| checked after I exited the lab), so this was not fair.
|
| Another dirty trick is that they may ask things with very shady
| completion criteria (think of optimization or something), so actually
| you have no clue except your best practice knowledge. For one of
| these questions I confirmed my understanding with the proctor twice,
| got two different answers, and finally ended up with no points.
|
| Cheers,
|
| Mihai
| CCIE #16616
|
| On 3/1/07, Suzan S. <suzan_ccie@yahoo.com> wrote:
| > Dears,
| >
| > Anyone knows about the lab exam, can we use the help for each
| > command and use ? to see the following command used.
| >
| > Do we have to know each Rfc
| > number and content to configure the senarios in the lab if the
| > service requested only through the Rfc number.
| >
| > Thank you
| >
| > Regards
| > Suzan
| >
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