RE: Vendor Bashing - Call a Truce (Good Tast and Good

From: Josh Loveless (josh@uen.org)
Date: Fri Feb 23 2007 - 11:36:41 ART


If there's going to be a cage match...I want in! I can be Josh "who the
hell are you, and why are you wearing a pink shirt to the lab" Loveless.
...I am the guy who hands Scott the chair when the match goes from UFC to
WWE.

Joshua Loveless CCIET #16638
Utah Education Network - Network Engineering
Phone: (801) 585-1133
Cell: (801) 647-4436
Email: josh@uen.org
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Administrator
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:51 PM
To: Rodrigo Cesine; Brian Dennis; Scott Morris; joshua lauer; Darby Weaver;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Vendor Bashing - Call a Truce (Good Tast and Good Judgement)

I am an avid supporter of the ufc and mma. Have been doing it for years,
training and teaching, and competing. The fight from this event, which was
UFC2, a very long time ago is not the way the sport is today. Its actually
quite a chess match. This is however, a black stain on the sport. I cover
all kinds of these events actually. Hah, did this ever get way off topic
haha.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Rodrigo Cesine
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:13 PM
To: Brian Dennis; Scott Morris; 'joshua lauer'; 'Darby Weaver';
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Vendor Bashing - Call a Truce (Good Tast and Good
Judgement)

You know guys.

There is a fighter called Scott Morris and he fought in the UFC 2, and in
his debut MMA competition he was defeated by Patrick Smith, a Kickboxer,
which smashed Scott4s face. (in fact Scott Morris almost died on this match)

Scott Morris is a ninjitsu fighter (Ninja4s discipline)

This was one of the most fight that I ever seen in the MMA story, on that
age, there are really no rule, no time scores, indeed a gladiators fight!!
Brutal violence!!

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?FighterID=24

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Dennis" <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
To: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>; "'joshua lauer'" <jslauer@hotmail.com>;

"'Darby Weaver'" <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: Vendor Bashing - Call a Truce (Good Tast and Good Judgement)

> So like the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship) mixed martial arts
> fights?
> I'll be Brian "The Ice Man" Dennis and you can be Scott "The Undertaker"
> Morris. Brian McGahan can be Brian "The Other Brian" McGahan ;-) Bruce
> Caslow could be Bruce "Please Leave Me Out of This" Caslow. But what
> would
> be a good name for Brad Ellis?
>
> --
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>
>
>
> On 2/21/07 10:20 AM, "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
>
>> Only if we can sell tickets and make some good money on it! :)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> joshua lauer
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:14 PM
>> To: Darby Weaver; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: Vendor Bashing - Call a Truce (Good Tast and Good Judgement)
>>
>> I think we ought to have a steel cage match with all the vendors
>> involved,
>> throw some beer into the mix and we'd be all set.
>>
>>
>> josh
>>
>>
>> Joshua Lauer
>> CCIE#16024
>>
>> CCNP,CCDP,CCSP,CCIP,RHCE
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Darby Weaver" <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
>> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>; <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:50 PM
>> Subject: Vendor Bashing - Call a Truce (Good Tast and Good Judgement)
>>
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Especially Vendors,
>>>
>>> The vendor bashing, slights, sneers, and insults has
>>> really got to STOP.
>>>
>>> In truth, it never should have started.
>>>
>>> So please for the sake of everyone on Groupstudy stop
>>> bashing one another, taking pots shots of typos,
>>> quotes, and unfortunate events that cause a loss of
>>> service to a vendor's service as some recent examples.
>>>
>>> In short, it serves no one any good. And if anything,
>>> it may make us, the customers, think less of those who
>>> participate in this childishness. My compliments to
>>> those vendors who have wisely chosen to stay above the
>>> melee going on here: past, present, and future.
>>>
>>> Flame me if you like, but you know who you are, and
>>> unfortunately, so do we as the users on Groupstudy.
>>>
>>> What we expect/don't expect to see from vendors:
>>>
>>> 1. We like the idea that they offer time to help us
>>> understand problems and issues that we are having
>>> while studying.
>>>
>>> 2. We don't like vendors who use Groupstudy as their
>>> own support forum - especially if the truth is that
>>> their own support forums are neglected (Some vendors
>>> are very glib on Groupstudy, but how active are they
>>> on thier on forums???). By the way - if someone does
>>> not support a function of the product you buy - are
>>> you due a partial or full refund?
>>>
>>> 3. We like to know what other members (not other
>>> vendors) think of their own experiences at various
>>> vendors. The vendors themselves may be biased and so
>>> it does not serve the question for a vendor or an
>>> employee of that vendor to comment on these types of
>>> questions.
>>>
>>> 4. We like to be able to commune with vendors and
>>> instructors (but one-to-one should be conducted
>>> one-to-one and not necessarily broadcasted to
>>> everyone).
>>>
>>> 5. We do not expect to see vendors posting snide
>>> remarks, offensive gestures, and other things
>>> generally unpleasant, especially when it involves the
>>> competition - some people here seem to do so with some
>>> relish. TAKE THIS OFFLINE - If you guys have the time
>>> and energy to send these childish e-mails then please
>>> do so one-to-one, or one-to-few, but leave
>>> one-to-everyone of Groupstudy out of it.
>>>
>>> 6. Taking advantage of a Groupstudy Member's problem
>>> to mock another vendor is a N0-NO. Remember the
>>> Golden Rule here.
>>>
>>> 7. Generally unprofessional behaviour by "the icons of
>>> the industry" in a public forum is generally not
>>> consistent with good taste. Please exercise your good
>>> taste and use your good judgement accordingly.
>>>
>>> 8. Oh yes, we love insight, tips, tricks, etc. that
>>> might make us better engineers and help us pass our
>>> CCIE Lab exam as a result.
>>>
>>> Now back to studies and lunch at the moment...
>>>
>>>
>>> So... I'm sorry it needed to be said, but things are
>>> getting quite loud.
>>>
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