From: ruth wainwright (ruthwainwright@yahoo.com.au)
Date: Wed Feb 21 2007 - 18:04:29 ART
Where can I get a picture of you guys?!
----- Original Message ----
From:
Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com>
To: Daniel_Steyn@Dell.com;
darbyweaver@yahoo.com; bdennis@internetworkexpert.com; jslauer@hotmail.com;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Sent: Wednesday, 21 February, 2007 8:00:38 PM
Subject:
RE: Vendor Bashing - Call a Truce (Good Tast and Good Judgement)
Someone has
to provide color commentary!
-----Original Message-----
From:
Daniel_Steyn@Dell.com [mailto:Daniel_Steyn@Dell.com]
Sent: Wednesday,
February 21, 2007 2:54 PM
To: darbyweaver@yahoo.com;
bdennis@internetworkexpert.com; swm@emanon.com;
jslauer@hotmail.com;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Vendor Bashing - Call a Truce (Good Tast
and Good Judgement)
And Darby "The apparent spokesperson and groupstudy
police chief for all
users now and in the future" Weaver can be the
commentator.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com
[mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Darby Weaver
Sent: Wednesday,
February 21, 2007 1:32 PM
To: Brian Dennis; Scott Morris; 'joshua lauer';
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Vendor Bashing - Call a Truce (Good Tast
and Good
Judgement)
I think they used to call him: "Iron Brad" or "Ironman
Brad" or something
like that.
--- Brian Dennis
<bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
wrote:
> So like the UFC (Ultimate Fighting
Championship) mixed martial arts
> fights?
> I'll be Brian "The Ice Man"
Dennis and you can be Scott "The
> Undertaker"
> Morris. Brian McGahan can
be Brian "The Other Brian" McGahan ;-)
> Bruce Caslow could be Bruce "Please
Leave Me Out of This"
> Caslow. But what would
> be a good name for Brad
Ellis?
>
> --
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
>
bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>
http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> Direct:
775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>
>
>
> On 2/21/07 10:20 AM,
"Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Only if we can sell tickets
and make some good
> money on it! :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >
joshua lauer
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:14 PM
> > To: Darby
Weaver; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Vendor Bashing - Call a Truce
(Good
> Tast and Good Judgement)
> >
> > I think we ought to have a steel
cage match with
> all the vendors involved,
> > throw some beer into the mix
and we'd be all set.
> >
> >
> > josh
> >
> >
> > Joshua Lauer
> >
CCIE#16024
> >
> > CCNP,CCDP,CCSP,CCIP,RHCE
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Darby Weaver" <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
> > To:
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>;
> <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday,
February 21, 2007 12:50 PM
> > Subject: Vendor Bashing - Call a Truce (Good
Tast
> and Good Judgement)
> >
> >
> >> All,
> >>
> >> Especially Vendors,
> >>
> >> The vendor bashing, slights, sneers, and insults
> has
> >> really
got to STOP.
> >>
> >> In truth, it never should have started.
> >>
> >> So
please for the sake of everyone on Groupstudy
> stop
> >> bashing one another,
taking pots shots of typos, quotes, and
> >> unfortunate events that cause a
loss
> of
> >> service to a vendor's service as some recent
> examples.
> >>
> >> In short, it serves no one any good. And if
> anything,
> >> it may make
us, the customers, think less of
> those who
> >> participate in this
childishness. My compliments
> to
> >> those vendors who have wisely chosen
to stay
> above the
> >> melee going on here: past, present, and future.
> >>
> >> Flame me if you like, but you know who you are,
> and
> >> unfortunately,
so do we as the users on
> Groupstudy.
> >>
> >> What we expect/don't expect
to see from vendors:
> >>
> >> 1. We like the idea that they offer time to
help
> us
> >> understand problems and issues that we are having while
studying.
> >>
> >> 2. We don't like vendors who use Groupstudy as
> their
>
>> own support forum - especially if the truth is
> that
> >> their own
support forums are neglected (Some
> vendors
> >> are very glib on Groupstudy,
but how active are
> they
> >> on thier on forums???). By the way - if
someone
> does
> >> not support a function of the product you buy -
> are
> >>
you due a partial or full refund?
> >>
> >> 3. We like to know what other
members (not other
> >> vendors) think of their own experiences at
> various
>
>> vendors. The vendors themselves may be biased
> and so
> >> it does not
serve the question for a vendor or an employee of that
> >> vendor to comment
on these types
> of
> >> questions.
> >>
> >> 4. We like to be able to
commune with vendors and instructors (but
> >> one-to-one should be conducted
one-to-one and not necessarily
> >> broadcasted to everyone).
> >>
> >> 5.
We do not expect to see vendors posting snide remarks, offensive
> >>
gestures, and other things generally unpleasant, especially when it
> >>
involves
> the
> >> competition - some people here seem to do so with
> some
>
>> relish. TAKE THIS OFFLINE - If you guys have the
> time
> >> and energy to
send these childish e-mails then
> please
> >> do so one-to-one, or
one-to-few, but leave one-to-everyone of
> >> Groupstudy out of it.
> >>
>
>> 6. Taking advantage of a Groupstudy Member's
> problem
> >> to mock another
vendor is a N0-NO. Remember the
> >> Golden Rule here.
> >>
> >> 7.
Generally unprofessional behaviour by "the
> icons of
> >> the industry" in a
public forum is generally not consistent with
> >> good taste. Please
exercise your
> good
> >> taste and use your good judgement accordingly.
> >>
> >> 8. Oh yes, we love insight, tips, tricks, etc.
> that
> >> might make us
better engineers and help us pass
> our
> >> CCIE Lab exam as a result.
> >>
> >> Now back to studies and lunch at the moment...
> >>
> >>
> >> So...
I'm sorry it needed to be said, but things
> are
> >> getting quite loud.
> >>
> >>
>
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