From: joshua lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed Feb 21 2007 - 15:13:39 ART
I think we ought to have a steel cage match with all the vendors involved,
throw some beer into the mix and we'd be all set.
josh
Joshua Lauer
CCIE#16024
CCNP,CCDP,CCSP,CCIP,RHCE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darby Weaver" <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>; <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:50 PM
Subject: Vendor Bashing - Call a Truce (Good Tast and Good Judgement)
> All,
>
> Especially Vendors,
>
> The vendor bashing, slights, sneers, and insults has
> really got to STOP.
>
> In truth, it never should have started.
>
> So please for the sake of everyone on Groupstudy stop
> bashing one another, taking pots shots of typos,
> quotes, and unfortunate events that cause a loss of
> service to a vendor's service as some recent examples.
>
> In short, it serves no one any good. And if anything,
> it may make us, the customers, think less of those who
> participate in this childishness. My compliments to
> those vendors who have wisely chosen to stay above the
> melee going on here: past, present, and future.
>
> Flame me if you like, but you know who you are, and
> unfortunately, so do we as the users on Groupstudy.
>
> What we expect/don't expect to see from vendors:
>
> 1. We like the idea that they offer time to help us
> understand problems and issues that we are having
> while studying.
>
> 2. We don't like vendors who use Groupstudy as their
> own support forum - especially if the truth is that
> their own support forums are neglected (Some vendors
> are very glib on Groupstudy, but how active are they
> on thier on forums???). By the way - if someone does
> not support a function of the product you buy - are
> you due a partial or full refund?
>
> 3. We like to know what other members (not other
> vendors) think of their own experiences at various
> vendors. The vendors themselves may be biased and so
> it does not serve the question for a vendor or an
> employee of that vendor to comment on these types of
> questions.
>
> 4. We like to be able to commune with vendors and
> instructors (but one-to-one should be conducted
> one-to-one and not necessarily broadcasted to
> everyone).
>
> 5. We do not expect to see vendors posting snide
> remarks, offensive gestures, and other things
> generally unpleasant, especially when it involves the
> competition - some people here seem to do so with some
> relish. TAKE THIS OFFLINE - If you guys have the time
> and energy to send these childish e-mails then please
> do so one-to-one, or one-to-few, but leave
> one-to-everyone of Groupstudy out of it.
>
> 6. Taking advantage of a Groupstudy Member's problem
> to mock another vendor is a N0-NO. Remember the
> Golden Rule here.
>
> 7. Generally unprofessional behaviour by "the icons of
> the industry" in a public forum is generally not
> consistent with good taste. Please exercise your good
> taste and use your good judgement accordingly.
>
> 8. Oh yes, we love insight, tips, tricks, etc. that
> might make us better engineers and help us pass our
> CCIE Lab exam as a result.
>
> Now back to studies and lunch at the moment...
>
>
> So... I'm sorry it needed to be said, but things are
> getting quite loud.
>
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