From: Brian McGahan (bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Thu Dec 28 2006 - 17:19:07 ART
Technically VRFs don't relate directly to MPLS though. You can
have MPLS implementations that don't use VRFs for MPLS VPNs, and you
have have VRF implementations that don't use MPLS. You could argue that
MPLS could be seen in the enterprise if a transit provider is doing a
CSC type setup and the enterprise customer is required to run MPLS on
the edge, but within the scope of the R&S exam I would say this is
unlikely.
In the meantime I would focus specifically on what is listed on
the R&S blueprint, and would assume that if a technology like MPLS were
to be added it would be announced 6 months in advanced on the blueprint
before being integrated into the lab.
HTH,
Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Darby Weaver
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:59 PM
> To: swm@emanon.com; 'COL-ALMANZA RAMIREZ, ELIAS'; 'Tony Schaffran';
> 'Hooman Parta'; Brian Dennis
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: rack rentals with 3560s?
>
> I don't know...
>
> I'm new to MPLS Concepts myself, however, we just
> implmented a pair of 3750's using VRF's with OSPF and
> there are some issues with various issues, not to
> mention some of the issues with VRF and Radius Servers
> and routing tables and recursion and ouch...
>
> I think you see some of my points and somebody who is
> an MPLS Guru out there is probably laughing at me...
>
> :)
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> Later...
> --- Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
>
> > From an enterprise perspective though (note: MOST
> > enterprises) what access
> > to MPLS networking are you going to have access to?
> > You need to know the
> > basics to be able to identify with them and know any
> > problems you may run
> > into. But TE and VPN concepts are purely an SP
> > focus.
> >
> > Unless, of course, you are an extremely large
> > enterprise network and running
> > your own MPLS cloud, but the quantity of those is
> > fairly small. So while it
> > may seem "basic" it covers what most people need to
> > focus on.
> >
> > Frame-relay isn't any different. Even though there
> > are some advanced topics
> > tested on, and things we generally may never care
> > about, we aren't tested on
> > the advanced topics of frame-relay switching, or
> > SVCs or NNI type signaling
> > or Frame/ATM intergration or anything like that
> > which is typically SP.
> >
> > So if I were you, I would just view it as another
> > technology, see how it's
> > implemented any be familiar with things. Everything
> > will be announced way
> > in advance anyway!
> >
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> > Provider) #4713, JNCIE
> > #153, CISSP, et al.
> > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > IPExpert VP - Curriculum Development
> > IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > smorris@ipexpert.com
> > http://www.ipexpert.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > COL-ALMANZA RAMIREZ, ELIAS
> > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:59 PM
> > To: Tony Schaffran; Hooman Parta; Brian Dennis;
> > Darby Weaver
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: rack rentals with 3560s?
> >
> > I think that the initial coverage of MPLS in the R&S
> > written exam is not as
> > comprehensive as it should be. Covering the basics
> > and not the applications
> > seems pretty "strange" to me. Not discussing MPLS
> > VPNs or TE may be a sign
> > that this topic should not have been included in the
> > blueprint in the first
> > place. Outside the Service Provider, MPLS makes no
> > difference in the access
> > technologies, unless there are many MPLS
> > implementations in large
> > enterprises.
> >
> > Is this an eligible topic to enter the R&S lab exam
> > blueprint or is it just
> > like the Wireless technology that is not tested in
> > the lab (was it)?
> >
> > Elias Almanza
> > Internetwork Operations
> > CCNP, CCIP, CCDP
> >
> >
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] En nombre de Tony
> > Schaffran Enviado el: Jueves, 28 de Diciembre de
> > 2006 11:43 a.m.
> > Para: 'Hooman Parta'; 'Brian Dennis'; 'Darby Weaver'
> > CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Asunto: RE: rack rentals with 3560s?
> >
> > I guess I had better hurry up and pass my re-cert.
> > :)
> >
> >
> > Tony Schaffran
> > Network Analyst
> > CCIE #11071
> > CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> > NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
> >
> > www.cconlinelabs.com
> > Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hooman Parta [mailto:hooman@voipsol.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:37 AM
> > To: 'Tony Schaffran'; 'Brian Dennis'; 'Darby Weaver'
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: rack rentals with 3560s?
> >
> >
> > I think he was referring to v3.0 blueprints. Trend
> > to MPLS is a fact but
> > how
> > soon Cisco will add or replace a technology with
> > that is still a
> > mystery.
> >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/rs/wr_exam_blueprint_v3.html
> >
> > Regards,
> > Hooman Parta
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Tony
> > Schaffran
> > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:08 AM
> > To: 'Brian Dennis'; 'Darby Weaver'
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: rack rentals with 3560s?
> >
> > The previous email from Darby stated that the writen
> > now contains mpls.
> >
> > It does not.
> >
> > Tony Schaffran
> > Network Analyst
> > CCIE #11071
> > CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> > NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
> >
> > www.cconlinelabs.com
> > Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian Dennis
> > [mailto:bdennis@internetworkexpert.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:28 PM
> > To: groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; Darby Weaver
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: rack rentals with 3560s?
> >
> >
> > Tony,
> > The discussion is in regards to the lab and not the
> > written.
> >
> > Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> >
> > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> >
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Schaffran
> > [mailto:groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 7:10 PM
> > To: 'Darby Weaver'; Brian Dennis
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: rack rentals with 3560s?
> >
> > The R&S written does not contain MPLS yet.
> >
> > Tony Schaffran
> > Network Analyst
> > CCIE #11071
> > CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> > NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
> >
> > www.cconlinelabs.com
> > Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Darby Weaver
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 6:55 PM
> > To: Brian Dennis
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>
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