From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Thu Dec 28 2006 - 17:37:23 ART
Absolutely! Now that's the type of things that are expected problems and
likely to be tested on. But in your recursion or routing issues or radius
stuff, there's nothing in there about configuring an MPLS VPN or Traffic
Engineering or things like that...
So yup, I'd expect that.
On the flip side (to make you feel better), let's think about Frame Relay
networking. In practice labs, you are often told to not use inverse-arp,
and not use point-to-point subinterfaces. Those are the two most common
"real-world" deployments on the client side of Frame. So if you hadn't ever
experienced the joys of static frame maps (or lack thereof) you would be in
a world of hurt!
Now, however, we most likely scoff in the face of static mapping 'cause we
know better! One step at a time... There will be issues, but not really
the in-depth issues of configuring an MPLS cloud, just reacting to one.
HTH,
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
#153, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
IPExpert VP - Curriculum Development
IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
smorris@ipexpert.com
http://www.ipexpert.com
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Darby Weaver
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 2:59 PM
To: swm@emanon.com; 'COL-ALMANZA RAMIREZ, ELIAS'; 'Tony Schaffran'; 'Hooman
Parta'; 'Brian Dennis'
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: rack rentals with 3560s?
I don't know...
I'm new to MPLS Concepts myself, however, we just implmented a pair of
3750's using VRF's with OSPF and there are some issues with various issues,
not to mention some of the issues with VRF and Radius Servers and routing
tables and recursion and ouch...
I think you see some of my points and somebody who is an MPLS Guru out there
is probably laughing at me...
:)
Happy New Year!
Later...
--- Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
> From an enterprise perspective though (note: MOST
> enterprises) what access
> to MPLS networking are you going to have access to?
> You need to know the
> basics to be able to identify with them and know any problems you may
> run into. But TE and VPN concepts are purely an SP focus.
>
> Unless, of course, you are an extremely large enterprise network and
> running your own MPLS cloud, but the quantity of those is fairly
> small. So while it may seem "basic" it covers what most people need
> to focus on.
>
> Frame-relay isn't any different. Even though there are some advanced
> topics tested on, and things we generally may never care about, we
> aren't tested on the advanced topics of frame-relay switching, or SVCs
> or NNI type signaling or Frame/ATM intergration or anything like that
> which is typically SP.
>
> So if I were you, I would just view it as another technology, see how
> it's implemented any be familiar with things. Everything will be
> announced way in advance anyway!
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> Provider) #4713, JNCIE
> #153, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> IPExpert VP - Curriculum Development
> IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> smorris@ipexpert.com
> http://www.ipexpert.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of COL-ALMANZA RAMIREZ, ELIAS
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:59 PM
> To: Tony Schaffran; Hooman Parta; Brian Dennis; Darby Weaver
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: rack rentals with 3560s?
>
> I think that the initial coverage of MPLS in the R&S written exam is
> not as comprehensive as it should be. Covering the basics and not the
> applications seems pretty "strange" to me. Not discussing MPLS VPNs or
> TE may be a sign that this topic should not have been included in the
> blueprint in the first place. Outside the Service Provider, MPLS makes
> no difference in the access technologies, unless there are many MPLS
> implementations in large enterprises.
>
> Is this an eligible topic to enter the R&S lab exam blueprint or is it
> just like the Wireless technology that is not tested in the lab (was
> it)?
>
> Elias Almanza
> Internetwork Operations
> CCNP, CCIP, CCDP
>
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] En nombre de Tony Schaffran Enviado el:
> Jueves, 28 de Diciembre de
> 2006 11:43 a.m.
> Para: 'Hooman Parta'; 'Brian Dennis'; 'Darby Weaver'
> CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Asunto: RE: rack rentals with 3560s?
>
> I guess I had better hurry up and pass my re-cert.
> :)
>
>
> Tony Schaffran
> Network Analyst
> CCIE #11071
> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>
> www.cconlinelabs.com
> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hooman Parta [mailto:hooman@voipsol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:37 AM
> To: 'Tony Schaffran'; 'Brian Dennis'; 'Darby Weaver'
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: rack rentals with 3560s?
>
>
> I think he was referring to v3.0 blueprints. Trend to MPLS is a fact
> but how soon Cisco will add or replace a technology with that is still
> a mystery.
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/rs/wr_exam_blueprint_v3.html
>
> Regards,
> Hooman Parta
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Tony Schaffran
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:08 AM
> To: 'Brian Dennis'; 'Darby Weaver'
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: rack rentals with 3560s?
>
> The previous email from Darby stated that the writen now contains
> mpls.
>
> It does not.
>
> Tony Schaffran
> Network Analyst
> CCIE #11071
> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>
> www.cconlinelabs.com
> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Dennis
> [mailto:bdennis@internetworkexpert.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:28 PM
> To: groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; Darby Weaver
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: rack rentals with 3560s?
>
>
> Tony,
> The discussion is in regards to the lab and not the written.
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
>
> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Schaffran
> [mailto:groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 7:10 PM
> To: 'Darby Weaver'; Brian Dennis
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: rack rentals with 3560s?
>
> The R&S written does not contain MPLS yet.
>
> Tony Schaffran
> Network Analyst
> CCIE #11071
> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>
> www.cconlinelabs.com
> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Darby Weaver
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 6:55 PM
> To: Brian Dennis
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>
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