From: Kemal YILDIRIM (kemalhy@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Dec 18 2006 - 09:01:55 ART
Hello Friends,
Below is the Maurilio Gorito's answer to my question.
I think it is time to study, and not only complaining about LAB content or
score reports.
Regards,
Kemal
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Hi Kemal,
Thanks for your note. We didn't change the content of the lab exam. What we
did was to introduce more switches and what I'm observing is people getting
problems to deal with a more complex spanning tree environment.
We do use scripts to help us to perform the initial grading, gathering the
firs outcomes but proctors are the ones who complete and send the final
results. I'm watching very close this.
Re-reads are done totally manually. A different proctor loads candidate's
configuration into a rack and go through the entire exam manually.
Thanks for the note again and we will be observing it.
Regards,
Maurilio
-----Original Message-----
From: KEMALHY@gmail.com [mailto:KEMALHY@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 8:40 AM
To: Maurilio Gorito (mgorito)
Subject: ASK THE EXPERT - PREPARING FOR CCIE IN R&S
Personal Message from sender:
Hi Maurilio,
After 13November change It seems people start complaining about R&S LAB
content and the result they got. My observation is people complaining
mostly about the automated scripting system that is used in LAB scoring.
My question is, do you use scripting for a LAB reread, because I feel so
uncomfortable after seeing more and more complaints about LAB results.
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ASK THE EXPERT ? PREPARING FOR CCIE IN ROUTING
BY: mgorito
DATE: May 31, 2006, 7:07pm PST
Hello,
We usually start testing a new technology in the wrritten exam first.
Then we observe and start or not testing in the lab exam.
Regarding the wireless content we are reving this topic right now to see
if we keep or not in the blueprint.
Maurilio
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Leon
van Dongen
Sent: 18 Aral}k 2006 Pazartesi 12:13
To: Serdar Kut; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: Re: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
Well, actually there is an ask the expert session with Maurillio Gorito
ending on December 22.
Go to www.cisco.com/go/netpro.
--Leon
>
> van: "Serdar Kut" <kutserdar@gmail.com>
> datum: 2006/12/18 Mon AM 10:31:05 MET
> aan: Xiangling <xianglingzj@gmail.com>,
> "Cisco certification"
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> onderwerp: Re: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
>
> I think it is time for Cisco to make an "Ask the Expert" session AT LEAST!
>
> On 12/18/06, Xiangling <xianglingzj@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Scott,
> >
> > I would have to say ccie@cisco.com or the cisco online certification
> > tool is totally rubbish. I have tried to ask them a few times but
> > they gave me stupid, totally unrelated answer to my question, and
> > they promised to call me after I complained to them but until now
> > (about 3 weeks passed I have get any call from them. I am totally
> > disappointed with their support. And I believe it is very lousy as
> > I got more and more complain about the CCIE exam. Thus I personally
> > think unless we can get hold of a chance to speak to some senior guy
> > in Cisco (like VP who is in charge of certs), it will become a vain
> > attempt.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Xiangling
> >
> > On 12/13/06, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
> >
> > > So allow me to state it in a different way... Sitting here and
> > > complaining back and forth does NOT solve the problem.
> > >
> > > Yeah, it doesn't help for someone to tell you to study more,
> > > because everyone knows that! But instead of commisserating with
> > > others around here, each and every one of you who has had
> > > mathematical or other difficulties needs to TELL CISCO ABOUT IT!
> > >
> > > If nobody says anything, they (upper management) may not know
> > > there are flaws in the system. If many people start
> > > (professionally) complaining about similar experiences, someone
> > > will say "There must be a problem, let's explore this."
> > >
> > > If nobody is willing to take this on, just what kind of
> > > expectation can you have of anything getting better?
> > >
> > > Yes, if all the frequency of this stuff occurring is increasing,
> > > it
> > sucks.
> > > Sucks bigtime. But if nobody expresses opinions about this to
> > > those who matter and have a stake in making things better, then it
> > > doesn't serve
> > any
> > > purpose other than to make ourselves feel a little better that we
> > > have found other people in similar situations.
> > >
> > > Whether it's the Assessor or the real lab or someone's practice
> > > labs, sometimes sh#*$ happens. Help make it right.
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
> > > #4713,
> > JNCIE
> > > #153, CISSP, et al.
> > > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > > IPExpert VP - Curriculum Development IPExpert Sr. Technical
> > > Instructor smorris@ipexpert.com http://www.ipexpert.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Blastmor
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:10 PM
> > > To: Mike O
> > > Cc: ccie >> Cisco certification
> > > Subject: Re: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
> > >
> > > Guys, that's enough to say shit and common words like "Study hard
> > > and everything will be ok"!
> > > It's really annoying. Everybody knows it and tries to go through
> > > the technologies as much as possible in depth. But the cases like
> > > which happened to Gabriel become more and more frequent. And this
> > > is not a candidate failure as we see but Cisco's. Recently I took
> > > the Assessor and
> > Autoverify
> > > said to me that I have missed RIP completely. That was lie! On the
> > > contrary RIP configuration was completely OK. Autoverify said that
> > > I missed
> > 'router
> > > rip, ver 2' and so on....
> > > Is it candidate failure too or what?
> > > I hate this fu...ing tool cause it can play evil joke with me.
> > >
> > > --
> > > SY, Alexey
> > >
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