From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Mon Dec 18 2006 - 17:06:24 ART
That's kind of a pompous assumption, don'tchya think???
I'm pretty well banking on the fact that the vast majority of people here
today couldn't do the lab that I had 7 years ago. Pick even just half of
the technologies tested... Does that mean it was harder then?
Or perhaps just different.
Get over it. Same stuff, different day, no matter how you slice it, the
basics are still the same.
;)
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
#153, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
IPExpert VP - Curriculum Development
IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
smorris@ipexpert.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kenza@kenza.nl [mailto:sales@kenza.nl]
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 9:39 AM
To: Michael Kotchkoski; Gabriel Nunes; Plank, Jason
Cc: Mike O; jenseike@start.no; swm@emanon.com; joe1265@hotmail.com;
groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
for those whom already have ccie for 4 or more years, i don't think they can
do the ccie lab again, its much harder/difficult now...im a right ??
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Kotchkoski" <michaelk2000@hotmail.com>
To: "Gabriel Nunes" <gabriel.nunes@gmail.com>; "Plank, Jason"
<JPlank@concordefs.com>
Cc: "Mike O" <mikeeo@msn.com>; <jenseike@start.no>; <swm@emanon.com>;
<joe1265@hotmail.com>; <sales@kenza.nl>; <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
> CORRECTION $ 250 bucks....
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gabriel Nunes" <gabriel.nunes@gmail.com>
> To: "Plank, Jason" <JPlank@concordefs.com>
> Cc: "Mike O" <mikeeo@msn.com>; <jenseike@start.no>; <swm@emanon.com>;
> <joe1265@hotmail.com>; <sales@kenza.nl>; <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
>
>
>> I`d like to say Congratulations for who already got your CCIE number and
>> didn`t face any issues with the exam!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/12/06, Plank, Jason <JPlank@concordefs.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > If you are so convinced that you had the correct answers then use a
> credit
>> > card and request a re-read. Isn't it only 200 bucks?
>> >
>> > YOU CAN DO EEEEEIIIIIITTTTTTTTT!
>> >
>> > -------------------
>> > Jason Plank, CCIE #16560
>> > Technical Support Architect
>> > 101 Bellevue Parkway
>> > Wilmington, DE 19809
>> > E-mail: JPlank@concordefs.com
>> > Phone: 302-793-5913
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> > Gabriel Nunes
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:10 PM
>> > To: Mike O
>> > Cc: jenseike@start.no; swm@emanon.com; joe1265@hotmail.com;
> sales@kenza.nl
>> > ;
>> > groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > Subject: Re: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
>> >
>> > Man,
>> >
>> > I think is better we stop this message... I`m was clear with my
> points...
>> >
>> > That question was a 3 point question and I didn`t find out what was
> wrong
>> > on
>> > my Multicast, Security and BGP session where I got 0% on all of them.
>> >
>> > That was the point. Wrong questions and "strange" scores.
>> >
>> > Some guys already agreed with me after show my solutions... And others
>> > guys
>> > took the same lab and did the same thing and got a different score...
>> >
>> > On BGP there were 3 questions, one of 2 points and two of 3 points How
> can
>> > someone get 28% of 8 points?? 2 of 8 is 25% and 3 of 8 is 37,5%
>> >
>> > As I don`t have money to pay the reread I will keep studying more and
> more
>> > until I pass.
>> >
>> > SO LETS STOP THIS CONVERSATION, BECAUSE IT WON`T SOLVE ANY PROBLEM.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 12/12/06, Mike O <mikeeo@msn.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I have to agree some of the questions are a little crazy and most
> likely
>> > > will be removed from future tests, but should one question fail you?
> no
>> > > you
>> > > should be solid in other areas.
>> > >
>> > > But then again one 2 point question can make or break ya :)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >From: "Gabriel Nunes" <gabriel.nunes@gmail.com>
>> > > >Reply-To: "Gabriel Nunes" <gabriel.nunes@gmail.com>
>> > > >To: "Jens Petter" <jenseike@start.no>
>> > > >CC: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>, "Joe Yohannan" <
>> > joe1265@hotmail.com
>> > > >,
>> > > > sales@kenza.nl, groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com,
>> > > ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > > >Subject: Re: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
>> > > >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:53:23 -0200
>> > > >
>> > > >Man, I know of this... But I have proves that they do mistakes
>> > > sometimes...
>> > > >I told before in this flow...
>> > > >
>> > > >I already asked for a reread and my score has growth (a lot)
>> > > >There is question asking to store erros in the NVRAM... I opened a
> TAC
>> > > and
>> > > >they said that this is not possible...
>> > > >We already had a router with ip base IOS...
>> > > >
>> > > >Those examples above are some of many others proving that we are
>> > injured
>> > > >sometimes, but I agree that we have to be prepared for everything!
>> > > >
>> > > >I`m not blaming Cisco totally... I`m just saying that we are injured
>> > > >sometimes... With the price we pay to take this test they should be
>> > > PERFECT
>> > > >in my opinion.
>> > > >
>> > > >It is not easy for me to pay $1250,00.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >On 12/12/06, Jens Petter <jenseike@start.no> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Know your stuff, and you will make it anywhere with any type of
>> > > eqipment
>> > > > > and
>> > > > > everything else... I would think that people have not passed
> because
>> > > >they
>> > > > > where not preapered, not because of ciscos labs or equipment..
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I talked to one guy who got lab with 4 cat`s and he told me the
> lab
>> > > was
>> > > > > fair, very much duable and he passed... there is no reason that
>> > others
>> > > > > shouldn't do the same if they have done their homework...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > In mine mine I think it is good that not that many passes... That
>> > > proves
>> > > > > that cisco has done a good jon keeping this lab the hardest cert
> out
>> > > >there
>> > > > > and keeping
>> > > > > it valiuable.. If every other people passed, then this
> certification
>> > > >would
>> > > > > have a problem... I would have been as much worth as an mcse
> cert...
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Mvh
>> > > > > Jens Petter Eikeland
>> > > > > Mob 98247550
>> > > > > Hipercom AS
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf
>> > > Of
>> > > > > Scott Morris
>> > > > > Sent: 12. desember 2006 03:29
>> > > > > To: 'Joe Yohannan'; sales@kenza.nl; groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com;
>> > > > > ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > > > > Subject: RE: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The format should be the same all around the world. India lab
>> > doesn't
>> > > > > have
>> > > > > local equipment anyway, it's remote-access to one of the other
> labs.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Perhaps it's merely an indication that people fear change and
> freak
>> > > out
>> > > > > about things? Or simply that some of the L2 stuff being focussed
> on
>> > > is
>> > > > > not
>> > > > > what people taking the lab are prepared for?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
> #4713,
>> > > >JNCIE
>> > > > > #153, CISSP, et al.
>> > > > > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
>> > > > > IPExpert VP - Curriculum Development
>> > > > > IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
>> > > > > smorris@ipexpert.com
>> > > > > http://www.ipexpert.com
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: Joe Yohannan [mailto:joe1265@hotmail.com]
>> > > > > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:14 PM
>> > > > > To: swm@emanon.com; sales@kenza.nl; groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com;
>> > > > > ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > > > > Subject: RE: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 4 switches campared to 2 doesn't worry me.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > What does worry me is barely anyone has been passing since
> 11/13...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I believe they have only gone through 50 numbers since then.
>> > > > > That
>> > > > > includes
>> > > > > numbers for the other tracks and India still using old lab
>> > > > > format.
>> > > > > (according to some one that posted here anyway) Prior to 11/13,
>> > they
>> > > >were
>> > > > > going through 100 numbers a month.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - Joe Yo
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >From: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
>> > > > > >Reply-To: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
>> > > > > >To: "'Kenza@kenza.nl'" <sales@kenza.nl>, <
>> > groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com
>> > > >,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> > > > > >Subject: RE: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
>> > > > > >Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:50:50 -0500
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >And if you prepare your mind for the complexity, you may be
>> > > pleasantly
>> > > > > >surprised if it's simple.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >And just because there are four switches doesn't mean the
>> > particular
>> > > > > >lab you have is that tough with it.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >As Tony said, same technology different layout.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
> #4713,
>> > > > > >JNCIE #153, CISSP, et al.
>> > > > > >CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
>> > > > > >IPExpert VP - Curriculum Development
>> > > > > >IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
>> > > > > >smorris@ipexpert.com
>> > > > > >http://www.ipexpert.com
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
>> > > > > >From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>> > Behalf
>> > > Of
>> > > > > >Kenza@kenza.nl
>> > > > > >Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 7:45 AM
>> > > > > >To: groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > > > > >Subject: Re: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >yes i know, but it get complex when you have 3 or 4 switches,
> more
>> > > > > >diffuclties then when you have just 2 switches.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > >From: "Tony Schaffran" <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>
>> > > > > >To: "'Kenza@kenza.nl'" <sales@kenza.nl>;
>> > > > > ><ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> > > > > >Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 1:35 PM
>> > > > > >Subject: RE: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > No need to get hung up on the actual number of switches.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Spanning-tree is the same regardless if there are 2 switches
> or
>> > > 20.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Focus on the technology and you will pass.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Tony Schaffran
>> > > > > > > Network Analyst
>> > > > > > > CCIE #11071
>> > > > > > > CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
>> > > > > > > NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > www.cconlinelabs.com
>> > > > > > > Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>> > > Behalf
>> > > > > > > Of Kenza@kenza.nl
>> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 3:08 AM
>> > > > > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > > > > > > Subject: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Anybody got lab with only 3 switches to configure ? or is it
> the
>> > 4
>> > > > > > > switches which have to be configured.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > im going to take the exam in januari.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > thx for your input
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > rgds,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
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