From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Oct 18 2006 - 01:07:03 ART
THANK YOU DARBY
On 10/17/06, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Sorry to see my name in one of the quotes.
>
> Nowhere does it state "4" Switching. In the U.S.
> version of English the word "replacing" means to use
> one in lieu of the other.
>
> Now by Maurilio Gorito's comment - it suggests one may
> see one of each (3560 and 3550 - as an example) for a
> time in one lab or the other.
>
> Now, I'm going to RTP this Friday and Tom, who works
> for Maurilio in some sense, will be there - most
> likely.
>
> Tom configures the equipment to be deployed in the
> CCIE Labs worldwide.
>
> I would think he "might" have a clue about such
> things.
>
> But if it were me:
>
> I have 2 3550's today in my most update rack and I
> will have two and only 2 3560's in my rack after the
> the Novemeber turnover. Which for me if I do not pass
> the lab on the 20th of October, the 21st of October
> will be MY effective date to start working with
> 3560's.
>
> For everyone else, read the thread - people are jibing
> at and joking about it. i.e. This is a big joke.
>
> There are 2 and only 2 switches until you read it
> plainly on Cisco's Website. In which case, you will
> likely have at least 6 months to adjust yourself and
> your own rack accordingly.
>
> Now when you see InternetworkExpert's Bill of
> Materials reading 4 switches. It is likely because
> they already have 2 3550's and will likely keep them
> and will also have 3560's (qty 2). The student can
> pick and choose - correct me (Brian and Brian) if I
> speak out of turn. I don't work for them - BTW.
>
> Understand the 3550 is being outdated by Cisco - why
> would they leave it on the rack???
>
> Use the tremendous brain power you each have to read
> English.
>
> ==============================
>
> Personally even if I see a 3560 on the rack - I gather
> I will be doing the same things as I did on the 3550.
>
> Cisco has to go through a process like everyone else.
>
> They do it this way for the routers - why would they
> not for the switches?
>
> I mean - had I not spent a bundle on updating my
> equipment.
>
> I'd just use 2514's on 12.2.17T to study with and a
> pair of 3550's and I feel I'd do pretty good on any
> given lab.
>
> When I studied using the Mock Labs with the Brians a
> few month back - the code on the routers was not the
> latest... But I learned what I needed to know just
> the same.
>
> You can do quite a bit... or you can keep up with the
> Jones's...
>
> You decide.
>
> For me the lab is passable, even if it takes more than
> one attempt.
>
> They simply ask questions from a body of knowledge
> they listed to be studied.
>
> That is all...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- "Sean C." <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What's "...not correct ..."? Where on the Cisco
> > website does it state what
> > will be the total number of switches?
> >
> > Mind you, just because it states that it will be
> > replacing the model of switch
> > is independent of what the total number of switches
> > will be.
> >
> > All you can be suggesting is that what Gavin posted
> > from Tong Ma was
> > fraudulent.
> > Also, what Scott was fraudulent:
> >
> http://shop.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200609/msg01279.html
> >
> > If you want to stay prepared for only 2 switches -
> > then you "go for it"
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Narbik Kocharians
> > To: Sean C
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 6:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: Lab Equipment for CCIE R&S Pre ENOUGH
> > ALREAD
> >
> >
> > That's all i can say, if you think CIsco's web
> > site is not correct then go
> > for it and prep up for four switches.
> >
> >
> > On 10/17/06, Sean C <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > Wha?? I don't need to read the link you
> > provided - even if I did, because
> > of the link's ambiguity, one could only 'assume'.
> >
> > Like I wrote at the end of my last email - if I
> > walked into the lab
> > sometime in mid-November, I expect to see 4
> > switches. The email from Tong Ma
> > validates that thinking - ASSUMING Tong's email
> > wasn't doctored (which I don't
> > believe Gavin did in anyway).
> >
> > Unfortunately, your last gripe "It's
> > unbelievable" is, in fact,
> > BELIEVABLE, simply because there is wrong
> > information being posted out there.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Narbik Kocharians
> > To: Sean C.
> > Cc: Brad Ellis ; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: Lab Equipment for CCIE R&S Pre
> > ENOUGH ALREADY
> >
> >
> > Let's not assume anymore, here PLEASE READ IT
> > AND TELL ME YOUR
> > INTERPRETENTION. It's unbeleivable
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/announcements/#rsnewlabequip
> >
> >
> > On 10/16/06, Sean C. <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com
> > > wrote:
> > Yes, but Brad, (and I write this
> > respectfully) - I think there is
> > some
> > hesitation (or at least 2nd guessing) when
> > we find conflicting
> > information
> > like what is posted below.
> >
> > "Yes, just two switches. The other rumors
> > about four switches
> > are/were
> > incorrect.
> > thanks,
> > Brad Ellis"
> >
> >
> http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200610/msg00121.html
> >
> > Then, a few posts later...
> >
> > To: Gavin Lawson
> > Subject: Switches in the Lab
> > Please include the following line in all
> > replies.
> > Tracking number: CT20061002_0000000312
> > Hello Gavin,
> > Yes there will be 4 switches in the lab
> > after the November upgrade and
> > it
> > will be a combination of 3550 & 3560 but we
> > are not releasing the
> > numbers of
> > each type being used.
> > Regards,
> > Tong Ma
> > CCIE Program
> >
> >
> http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200610/msg00134.html
> >
> > I recognize the number of switches is a
> > different 'thread' then the
> > model of
> > switches. But still, the reason there maybe
> > some misinformation is
> > because
> > of statements like the ones above.
> >
> > Again, I write this respectfully,
> > Sean
> >
> > PS - my $$ is on there will be 4 switches in
> > the lab.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brad Ellis" < brad@ccbootcamp.com>
> > To: "Victor Cappuccio" <
> > cvictor@protokolgroup.com>; "Shamin"
> > <ccie.xpert@gmail.com>; "ali usmani" <
> > alihassan80@yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "Brian Dennis"
> > <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>;
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: Lab Equipment for CCIE R&S Pre
> > ENOUGH ALREADY!
> >
> >
> > lovely...lets keep the rumors going! the
> > 3550s WILL BE REMOVED!!!
> > YES!
> > They will be! They are BEING REPLACED by
> > catalyst 3560s! So, for a
> > period
> > of time, there will be 3550s in some
> > people's labs, and 3560s in
> > others...
> >
> > ---------snip email from R&S head
> > proctor----
> >
> > Hi Brad,
> >
> > CCIE R&S will start replacing the 3550s and
> > introducing the 3560. For
> > a
> > period candidates might see 3550s and 3560s
> > because it takes time to
> > replace everything, but is not a bad idea if
> > you go to have 3560s.
> >
> > Maurilio
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/announcements/index.html
> > Change to CCIE R&S Lab Equipment and IOS
> > Effective November 13, 2006, CCIE Routing
> > and Switching labs will
> > begin
> > replacing the Catalyst 3550 by introducing
> > the Cisco Catalyst 3560
> > Series
> > enterprise-class switches.
> >
> > All CCIE R&S candidates taking exams on or
> > after that date should be
> > familiar with the new switches and
> > associated IOS, although
> > installation of
> > the new equipment will take place over
> > several months and some
> > candidates
> > may not see the new equipment in their exams
> > right away. No changes
> > are
> > being made to the lab exam blueprint at this
> > time and candidates
> > should
> > continue to refer to the existing CCIE R&S
> > Lab Exam Blueprint for exam
> > topics.
> >
> >
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> >
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>
-- Narbik Kocharians CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security) CCSI# 30832 Network Learning, Inc. (CCIE class Instructor) www.ccbootcamp.com (CCIE Training)
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