From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Oct 18 2006 - 01:05:03 ART
All,
Sorry to see my name in one of the quotes.
Nowhere does it state "4" Switching. In the U.S.
version of English the word "replacing" means to use
one in lieu of the other.
Now by Maurilio Gorito's comment - it suggests one may
see one of each (3560 and 3550 - as an example) for a
time in one lab or the other.
Now, I'm going to RTP this Friday and Tom, who works
for Maurilio in some sense, will be there - most
likely.
Tom configures the equipment to be deployed in the
CCIE Labs worldwide.
I would think he "might" have a clue about such
things.
But if it were me:
I have 2 3550's today in my most update rack and I
will have two and only 2 3560's in my rack after the
the Novemeber turnover. Which for me if I do not pass
the lab on the 20th of October, the 21st of October
will be MY effective date to start working with
3560's.
For everyone else, read the thread - people are jibing
at and joking about it. i.e. This is a big joke.
There are 2 and only 2 switches until you read it
plainly on Cisco's Website. In which case, you will
likely have at least 6 months to adjust yourself and
your own rack accordingly.
Now when you see InternetworkExpert's Bill of
Materials reading 4 switches. It is likely because
they already have 2 3550's and will likely keep them
and will also have 3560's (qty 2). The student can
pick and choose - correct me (Brian and Brian) if I
speak out of turn. I don't work for them - BTW.
Understand the 3550 is being outdated by Cisco - why
would they leave it on the rack???
Use the tremendous brain power you each have to read
English.
==============================
Personally even if I see a 3560 on the rack - I gather
I will be doing the same things as I did on the 3550.
Cisco has to go through a process like everyone else.
They do it this way for the routers - why would they
not for the switches?
I mean - had I not spent a bundle on updating my
equipment.
I'd just use 2514's on 12.2.17T to study with and a
pair of 3550's and I feel I'd do pretty good on any
given lab.
When I studied using the Mock Labs with the Brians a
few month back - the code on the routers was not the
latest... But I learned what I needed to know just
the same.
You can do quite a bit... or you can keep up with the
Jones's...
You decide.
For me the lab is passable, even if it takes more than
one attempt.
They simply ask questions from a body of knowledge
they listed to be studied.
That is all...
--- "Sean C." <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com> wrote:
> What's "...not correct ..."? Where on the Cisco
> website does it state what
> will be the total number of switches?
>
> Mind you, just because it states that it will be
> replacing the model of switch
> is independent of what the total number of switches
> will be.
>
> All you can be suggesting is that what Gavin posted
> from Tong Ma was
> fraudulent.
> Also, what Scott was fraudulent:
>
http://shop.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200609/msg01279.html
>
> If you want to stay prepared for only 2 switches -
> then you "go for it"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Narbik Kocharians
> To: Sean C
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 6:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Lab Equipment for CCIE R&S Pre ENOUGH
> ALREAD
>
>
> That's all i can say, if you think CIsco's web
> site is not correct then go
> for it and prep up for four switches.
>
>
> On 10/17/06, Sean C <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> Wha?? I don't need to read the link you
> provided - even if I did, because
> of the link's ambiguity, one could only 'assume'.
>
> Like I wrote at the end of my last email - if I
> walked into the lab
> sometime in mid-November, I expect to see 4
> switches. The email from Tong Ma
> validates that thinking - ASSUMING Tong's email
> wasn't doctored (which I don't
> believe Gavin did in anyway).
>
> Unfortunately, your last gripe "It's
> unbelievable" is, in fact,
> BELIEVABLE, simply because there is wrong
> information being posted out there.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Narbik Kocharians
> To: Sean C.
> Cc: Brad Ellis ; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Lab Equipment for CCIE R&S Pre
> ENOUGH ALREADY
>
>
> Let's not assume anymore, here PLEASE READ IT
> AND TELL ME YOUR
> INTERPRETENTION. It's unbeleivable
>
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/announcements/#rsnewlabequip
>
>
> On 10/16/06, Sean C. <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com
> > wrote:
> Yes, but Brad, (and I write this
> respectfully) - I think there is
> some
> hesitation (or at least 2nd guessing) when
> we find conflicting
> information
> like what is posted below.
>
> "Yes, just two switches. The other rumors
> about four switches
> are/were
> incorrect.
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis"
>
>
http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200610/msg00121.html
>
> Then, a few posts later...
>
> To: Gavin Lawson
> Subject: Switches in the Lab
> Please include the following line in all
> replies.
> Tracking number: CT20061002_0000000312
> Hello Gavin,
> Yes there will be 4 switches in the lab
> after the November upgrade and
> it
> will be a combination of 3550 & 3560 but we
> are not releasing the
> numbers of
> each type being used.
> Regards,
> Tong Ma
> CCIE Program
>
>
http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200610/msg00134.html
>
> I recognize the number of switches is a
> different 'thread' then the
> model of
> switches. But still, the reason there maybe
> some misinformation is
> because
> of statements like the ones above.
>
> Again, I write this respectfully,
> Sean
>
> PS - my $$ is on there will be 4 switches in
> the lab.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Ellis" < brad@ccbootcamp.com>
> To: "Victor Cappuccio" <
> cvictor@protokolgroup.com>; "Shamin"
> <ccie.xpert@gmail.com>; "ali usmani" <
> alihassan80@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Brian Dennis"
> <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Lab Equipment for CCIE R&S Pre
> ENOUGH ALREADY!
>
>
> lovely...lets keep the rumors going! the
> 3550s WILL BE REMOVED!!!
> YES!
> They will be! They are BEING REPLACED by
> catalyst 3560s! So, for a
> period
> of time, there will be 3550s in some
> people's labs, and 3560s in
> others...
>
> ---------snip email from R&S head
> proctor----
>
> Hi Brad,
>
> CCIE R&S will start replacing the 3550s and
> introducing the 3560. For
> a
> period candidates might see 3550s and 3560s
> because it takes time to
> replace everything, but is not a bad idea if
> you go to have 3560s.
>
> Maurilio
>
>
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>
http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/announcements/index.html
> Change to CCIE R&S Lab Equipment and IOS
> Effective November 13, 2006, CCIE Routing
> and Switching labs will
> begin
> replacing the Catalyst 3550 by introducing
> the Cisco Catalyst 3560
> Series
> enterprise-class switches.
>
> All CCIE R&S candidates taking exams on or
> after that date should be
> familiar with the new switches and
> associated IOS, although
> installation of
> the new equipment will take place over
> several months and some
> candidates
> may not see the new equipment in their exams
> right away. No changes
> are
> being made to the lab exam blueprint at this
> time and candidates
> should
> continue to refer to the existing CCIE R&S
> Lab Exam Blueprint for exam
> topics.
>
>
>
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