From: sheherezada@gmail.com
Date: Sun Oct 15 2006 - 09:18:39 ART
I work in Bucharest. Only 16 CCIEs here - so the best part is that
you can always choose your employer :)
The down side is that salaries are still very low compared to the
western countries: 1500 to 2500 euros net per month, even if the cost
of living is also low (my current spending is 500 euros per month). I
am seriously thinking of finding a job in western Europe and return
after several years. Irish employers seem to accept me most easily.
Cheers,
Mihai
CCIE #16616
On 10/13/06, Michael Zuo <mzuo@ixiacom.com> wrote:
> Thank you guys for the info
>
>
>
> No "family" problem here :-) I can pack up and be ready for a 12 hour flight
> in 2 hours...
>
>
>
> How is the tax situation in Europe? My impression is that US is the best (30%
> to 40%) for low 100K USD.
>
>
>
> Any comments?
>
>
>
> Also anyone has experience working in Eastern Europe in similar positions?
> (Bucharest is only 75 minute flight to Turkey :-), more exotic travel
> possibilities )
>
>
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: loke [mailto:loke14@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:39 PM
> To: graham@cisco-engineer.com
> Cc: Victor Cappuccio; sabrina pittarel; Pierre-Alex GUANEL; Michael Zuo; Elias
> Chari; Oscar Fernandez; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: OT Jobs in Europe
>
>
>
> Agreed, the same with the US. The real money is in the contract positions,
> VoIP especially. The trick about the high cost of living in the city is to
> find a company that will pay for travel expenses. Its tough if you have a
> family though.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> On 10/11/06, graham@cisco-engineer.com <graham@cisco-engineer.com > wrote:
>
>
>
> Yes if you want to live in the middle of the city! But if you do what most
> people do, live outside of london and Train in ! I live outside london, I
> have a large size 3 bed house with a Garage for approx 190K, I live 5 mins
> walk from a train station and it takes 30-40 mins into London. Again Schools
> wise, out of London they are better, The best thing to do with London
> Salaries is work for 5-10 years and save, then return back to your contry or
> origin with a good ammount of money. At the moment the # is worth almost $2
> as apposed to 10 years ago it was 1 x 1.3.
>
> Again, its stupid to live in London unless you absolutely must or want to
> live in poverty! Again the real money is in Contract roles not permenet
> position, contracting pays 2 to 3 times more.
>
> Good luck
>
>
>
> Thanks
> Graham Clarke
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto: nobody@groupstudy.com
> <mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com> ] En nombre de
> sabrina pittarel Enviado el: Miircoles, 11 de Octubre de 2006 06:06 p.m.
> Para: loke; Pierre-Alex GUANEL
> CC: Michael Zuo; Elias Chari; Oscar Fernandez; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Asunto: Re: OT Jobs in Europe
>
> Let's don't get too excited...
> UK salaries in an "absolute" scale are good, but what about on a "relative"
> scale.
> 1-2 bedroom apartments in decent London
> areas sells for around 300-400K pounds (and I believe I'm staying low), and
> the bedrooms are smaller than my walk in closet. No kidding.
> Many of them have
> carpet in the bathroom, so prepare yourself to remodel.
> Renting doesn't come
> for cheap either, many single people rent single bedrooms in shared
> apartments.
> Same can be said for food, whether you eat out or you cook on your own.
>
> If you have a family, public elementary and middle schools are not very good
> I'm told (it may depend on the district), so many families send their kids
> to private schools (if they can get them accepted since the demand is
> high)...since you are not the only one that has to earn a live there, you
> can guess how much they cost.
>
> Everything else is personal taste. My sister lived there for 10 years and
> she is getting tired only now...a friend couple who stayed there 2 years
> only is already making plans to leave.
>
> Sabrina
>
>
> -----
> Original Message ----
> From: loke <loke14@gmail.com>
> To: Pierre-Alex GUANEL
> <paguanel@hotmail.com >
> Cc: Michael Zuo <mzuo@ixiacom.com>; Elias Chari <elias.chari@gmail.com>;
> Oscar Fernandez < oscar@kaos.es <mailto:oscar@kaos.es> >;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 12:31:31 PM
> Subject:
> Re: OT Jobs in Europe
>
> Pierre yes I want to move. It sounds like a lot of fun.
> Can you tell me if
> there are a lot of Cisco VoIP AVVID projects in the UK?
> Nick
>
>
> On 10/11/06, loke <loke14@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > #80-85k is nice.
> Although it is possible to make more in the US. But I
> > will take the pay cut
> to travel and experience UK and Europe.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > On 10/11/06,
> Pierre-Alex GUANEL < paguanel@hotmail.com <mailto:paguanel@hotmail.com> >
> wrote:
> > >
> > > No, this is actualy
> British Pounds
> > >
> > > So moving ?
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original
> Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Zuo" <mzuo@ixiacom.com>
> > > To: "Elias Chari"
> <elias.chari@gmail.com >; "Oscar Fernandez" <
> > > oscar@kaos.es>
> > > Cc:
> "Pierre-Alex GUANEL" <paguanel@hotmail.com >; "loke" <loke14@gmail.com
> > > >;
> >
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 7:41 PM
> > >
> Subject: RE: OT Jobs in Europe
> > >
> > >
> > > Thie 80-80K number you are
> mentioning is in USD correct (too good to be
> > > true for Pound)?
> > >
> > >
> Anyone has experience/information re: eastern Europe?
> > >
> > > Thanks in
> advance
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto: nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Elias Chari
> > > Sent:
> Wednesday, October 11, 2006 1:37 AM
> > > To: Oscar Fernandez
> > > Cc:
> Pierre-Alex GUANEL; loke; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: OT Jobs in
> Europe
> > >
> > > I agree with the rest, work in London or M3/M4 corridor and go
> to Italy
> > > (which is a very beautiful country) for holidays.
> > >
> > > If you
> check the websites listed, you will find lots of jobs in the
> > > #80-85k,
> > >
> for people with the relevant experience. However when you apply on line
> > >
> some/most of them ask if you have a permit to work in the country you
> > > are
> > > applying for. Not sure how you can go about it but the easiest way
> > > will
> >
> > be for the company to arrange for your work permit. It may be worth
> > >
> joining a US company which operates in the UK and get them to arrange
> > > for
> > > your visa. How about Cisco, they have offices close to Heathrow
> > > airport
> >
> > which is about 10mins drive frim West London. In my opinion (others
> > may
> > >
> disagree) West London is the best part.
> > >
> > > Check out the UK Home Office
> page, it may help.
> > >
> > > http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/
> > >
> > > Rgds
> > >
> Elias
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/10/06, Oscar Fernandez <oscar@kaos.es> wrote:
> > > >
> >
> > > www.jobserve.co.uk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> From: "Pierre-Alex GUANEL" < paguanel@hotmail.com
> <mailto:paguanel@hotmail.com> >
> > > > To: "loke" <
> loke14@gmail.com>
> > > > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com >
> > > > Sent: Tuesday,
> October 10, 2006 7:49 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: OT Jobs in Europe
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > In the uk a good site: www.totaljobs.co.uk
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > PALEX
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >
> From: "loke" < loke14@gmail.com>
> > > > > To: "Cisco certification"
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com >
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:24 AM
> > >
> > > Subject: OT Jobs in Europe
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> I am a CCIE in the USA
> and looking to find work traveling around
> > > > Europe.
> > > > > Can
> > > > >>
> anyone recommend a good website for finding cisco work in Europe?
> > > In
> > > >
> the
> > > > > US
> > > > >> I use dice.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Kind Regards,
> > > > >>
> >
> > > >> Nicholas Sciarrilli
> > > > >> CCIE #16602
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > >
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