From: AMILABS (amilabs@optonline.net)
Date: Thu Aug 24 2006 - 14:44:52 ART
I agree with Joshua I was one of the earlier CNEs late 80s early 90s circa
of networking. It was considered the be all end all at it's time. I didn't
have my degree then and the CNE did land me a top job at a brokerage firm.
All levels of certs are helpful in filling in the gaps and providing a
structured approach to learning a new area of technology. For example, with
wireless I was all over the place 4 years ago, but the CWNP program got me
focused and I am one exam away from CWNE status. I have worked with and
helped CCIEs in the past, some are great at R&S while others are weaker or
haven't done it in awhile so they get a bad rap too.
In 1999 I was already a very successful networking consultant. Cisco was
only one area of my experience, mostly protocol and application impact
analysis was my forte but I too studied for the CCNA then and I learned a
lot of the "little things" that filled in the gaps or areas I had forgotten
or never knew or used before. I treated my last two CCNP/DP re-cert exams
the same way to refresh on areas that I have not touched in years. Spanning
Tree so the re-cert update on MST and Rapid was very helpful and
informative.
My next area, which I have lots of experience in but may want to fill in
some gaps is PMP and maybe I will do the CCVP(since I wrote a major QoS
paper for a client last year), squeeze in CCIP and possibly CCSP but
security bores me.
It is not the cert. but the individual.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Joshua Lauer
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:56 PM
To: chris; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCNA carrer
Back when the CCIE was the only certification you could get maybe this makes
sense. However starting from the ground up makes more sense, why not get a
good base and build your way up the pyramid?
You'll have gaps in your knowledge if you dont get a good base. In my view,
being a CCIE is more than knowing about protocols and being able to find
things on the DOC CD.
I wouldnt say that MCSE or COMPTIA certs are jokes, maybe to some people.
But others have to start somewhere, might as well be there. Many people
(including myself) started at MCSE and graduated along the path.
jl
Joshua Lauer
CCIE#16024
CCNP, CCSP, CCDP, CCIP, INFOSEC
----- Original Message -----
From: "chris" <iannaconec@optonline.net>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:59 AM
Subject: CCNA carrer
> Why go for CCNA or CCNP jump in with both feet and
> go for the CCIE - learn all you can about the
> protocols and become expert at finding things on
> the documentation cd - You should be able to find
> any given topic within ten minutes. comptia and
> MCSE is a joke as far as employability , IMO
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