From: Yinglam Cheung (ccie6961@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Jul 18 2006 - 16:19:42 ART
Just AToM alone is a major feature.
The interesting thing to me is that, how many 7200VXR is going to be in SP lab? if there is only one, you may not be so worried as if there is a couple or a few.
Tony Schaffran <tschaffran@cconlinelabs.com> wrote:
Here are the features unique to 7200 12.2S Service Provider feature set over the 2811 12.4T Advanced IP Services feature set. This still does not seem like much compared to all of the other features that are available. These are just minor features. Other than trying to simulate a service provider environment, I do not see any real value in trying to incorporate a 7200 into your studies.
ACL - Named ACL Support for Noncontiguous Ports on an Access Control Entry
ACL TCP Flags Filtering
Any Transport over MPLS (AToM) Graceful Restart
Any Transport over MPLS (AToM): ATM AAL5 over MPLS (AAL5oMPLS)
Any Transport over MPLS (AToM): Ethernet over MPLS (EoMPLS)
Any Transport over MPLS (AToM): Frame Relay over MPLS (FRoMPLS)
Any Transport over MPLS (AToM): HDLC over MPLS (HDLCoMPLS)
Any Transport over MPLS (AToM): Port Mode Cell Relay Support
Any Transport over MPLS (AToM): PPP over MPLS (PPPoMPLS)
Any Transport over MPLS (AToM): Single Cell Relay - VC Mode (CRoMPLS)
ATM AAL5 OAM Emulation over L2TPv3
ATM Port Mode Packed Cell Relay over AToM
ATM PVC Trap Enhancements for Segment and End AIS/RDI failures
ATM PVC Trap Support
ATM Single Cell Relay (VC Mode) over L2TPv3
Automatic Protection Switching (APS)
BGP Increased Support of Numbered as-path Access Lists to 500
BGP Next Hop Propagation
BGP Policy Accounting output interface accounting
Bisync support for synchronous serial port adapters
CEF Switching for Routed Bridge Encapsulation
Cisco Multipath Channel+
CNS
Dynamic Bandwidth Change for ATM PVCs
EGP
Embedded Event Manager (EEM) 2.0
Enhanced ATM VC Configuration and Management
Frame Relay FRF.1.2 Annex A Support.
IGMP Version 1
IGMP Version 2
Internet Protocol Control Protocol (IPCP) address negotiation
IP-to-ATM CoS
IS-IS HMAC-MD5 Authentication
Layer 2 Local Switching - ATM to Ethernet
Manual Certificate Enrollment via TFTP
Memory Threshold Notifications
MPLS Traffic Engineering (TE) - Configurable Path Calculation Metric for Tunnels
MPLS Traffic Engineering (TE) - Interarea Tunnels
MPLS Traffic Engineering (TE) - IP Explicit Address Exclusion
MPLS Traffic Engineering (TE) - Scalability Enhancements
MPLS Traffic Engineering Forwarding Adjacency
MPLS VPN support for EIGRP between Provider Edge (PE) and Customer Edge (CE)
NetFlow Export of BGP Nexthop Information
Netflow Input Filters and Multi-Sampling rates
Network Services Engine (NSE)
OSPF Support for Forwarding Adjacencies over MPLS Traffic Engineered Tunnels
Per-VC queuing for ATM
Router Security Audit Manageability
SGCP
SRB - Source Route Bridging Enhancements
Suppress BGP Advertisement for Inactive Routes
TN3270 LU Nailing
TN3270 Server
TN3270 Server (CIP only)
TN3270 Server Connectivity Enhancements
Turbo Access Control Lists
Warm Reload
Tony Schaffran
Network Analyst
CCIE #11071
CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
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-----Original Message-----
From: Yinglam Cheung [mailto:ccie6961@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:33 AM
To: Tony Schaffran; 'Carlos Manjarres'; 'Scott Morris'; 'Joshua Lauer'; 'CCIE LAB'
Subject: RE: Introduction of the 7200 for the SP lab???
I think you may be comparing wrong IOS branches. For SP features on 7200VXR, you should look at 12.0S or 12.2SB feature sets instead of 12.4T or 12.4.
There are some major differences in features. These are some I can think of:
1. L2VPN or AToM using LDP targetted session. low end routers like ISR only supports l2tpv3 for L2VPN. This also includes L2VPN interworking and local switching.
2. TE FRR. Fast ReRoute is only supported in 12.0S and 12.2SX (7600/6500 platforms).
3. BGP optimizations: it was done first on 12.0S, not sure if it'll be integrated into other branches. There are lots of optimizations, and you can look at 12.0S features in CCO.
There are many minor features in protocols. Best way is to look at new features in CCO.
Other things I can think of are hardware. Since POS interfaces are common in SP environment, and the entry-level router for POS is 7200VXR. :) hope they'll put in a NPE-G1 or NPE-G2 instead of slower NPE.
I think Cisco is making right move to make the lab more like real world. I did mention something like that in my CCIE program survey. :)
Tony Schaffran <tschaffran@cconlinelabs.com> wrote:
Yes, there are some minor differences, but nothing significant.
Like Scott described, I think it is more the fact that most people cannot
separate the lab environment from the real world and were probably
complaining too much.
Tony Schaffran
Network Analyst
CCIE #11071
CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
www.cconlinelabs.com
Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos Manjarres [mailto:c_manjarres@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:10 AM
To: Scott Morris; tschaffran@cconlinelabs.com; 'Joshua Lauer'; 'CCIE LAB'
Subject: RE: Introduction of the 7200 for the SP lab???
I think that they are introducing the Cisco 7200
because is a real SP plattform :). Some of the
features that they can ask with the Cisco 7200 are:
- Cisco7200 as Label Switch Controller
- Local switching
- AToM - Like to like and Interworking. I don't know
whether AToM is suported on the Cisco 2800.
- MPLS TE - Inter Area AS Support
- MPLS TE - Forwarding adjacency
I am still looking what else is different.
Best regards,
Carlos Manjarres
Systems Engineer
CCIE #7021
--- Scott Morris wrote:
> I think part of what it is is that people whine and
> complain. No "serious"
> SP will be using 2600's and 2800's or 3600/3700/3800
> in the core of their
> network. Some people simply cannot separate a
> testing environment from the
> real thing despite the fact that technologies (as
> tested) work the same
> either place.
>
> The use of the 7200 would make it more "real".
> Other than that, I'm at a
> loss. There are some extra features, at least with
> the likes of the NP-1GE
> or NP-2G processors... But otherwise, unless
> they're going to bring in some
> OSR7600's ESR10K's or GSR12K's I don't think there
> will be any sort of major
> difference in the lab other than topology and sheer
> number of interfaces.
>
> *shrug* Just my viewpoint. Unless they have
> something incredibly heinous
> in mind that I just haven't thought of yet! ;)
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> Provider) #4713, JNCIE
> #153, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> smorris@ipexpert.com
> http://www.ipexpert.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Schaffran
> [mailto:tschaffran@cconlinelabs.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:07 AM
> To: swm@emanon.com; 'Joshua Lauer'; 'CCIE LAB'
> Subject: RE: Introduction of the 7200 for the SP
> lab???
>
> That is probably more likely the reason I guess, but
> SONET interfaces have
> been around for a while like the 7200. Why now
> highlight the 7200?
>
> Tony Schaffran
> Network Analyst
> CCIE #11071
> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>
> www.cconlinelabs.com
> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm@emanon.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:57 AM
> To: 'Joshua Lauer'; 'Tony Schaffran'; 'CCIE LAB'
> Subject: RE: Introduction of the 7200 for the SP
> lab???
>
>
> And perhaps the introduction of other exciting
> interface types like SONET?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Joshua Lauer
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:49 AM
> To: Tony Schaffran; 'CCIE LAB'
> Subject: Re: Introduction of the 7200 for the SP
> lab???
>
> L2TPV3 ?
>
> Afaik the 2800 doesnt support it
>
> jl
>
>
> Joshua Lauer
>
> CCIE#16024
> CCNP, CCDP, CCSP, CCIP, RHCE, INFOSEC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Schaffran"
> To: "'CCIE LAB'"
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:48 AM
> Subject: Introduction of the 7200 for the SP lab???
>
>
> > Can somebody explain to me why cisco is singling
> > out this router for their
> > SP lab? What can this particular router do that a
>
> > 2800 cannot do in a lab
> > environment? I know the performance differences,
> > but is there a fundamental
> > difference in the IOS?
> >
> >
>
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