From: Chirag Arora (carora1977@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Jul 18 2006 - 16:04:21 ART
As many people said, 7200 is usually the lowest PE/P box that SPs deploy for
MPLS networks. Also features like L2VPN, TE , AToM INterworking aren't
suppported on 2800/3800 though they support L3VPN with very few VRfs. L2TPv3
is supported on almost all the platforms including the ISRs 2800.
chirag
On 7/19/06, Tony Schaffran <tschaffran@cconlinelabs.com> wrote:
>
> Interesting.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Tony Schaffran
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yinglam Cheung [mailto:ccie6961@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:33 AM
> To: Tony Schaffran; 'Carlos Manjarres'; 'Scott Morris'; 'Joshua Lauer';
> 'CCIE LAB'
> Subject: RE: Introduction of the 7200 for the SP lab???
>
>
> I think you may be comparing wrong IOS branches. For SP features on
> 7200VXR,
> you should look at 12.0S or 12.2SB feature sets instead of 12.4T or 12.4.
>
> There are some major differences in features. These are some I can think
> of:
>
> 1. L2VPN or AToM using LDP targetted session. low end routers like ISR
> only
> supports l2tpv3 for L2VPN. This also includes L2VPN interworking and local
> switching.
> 2. TE FRR. Fast ReRoute is only supported in 12.0S and 12.2SX (7600/6500
> platforms).
> 3. BGP optimizations: it was done first on 12.0S, not sure if it'll be
> integrated into other branches. There are lots of optimizations, and you
> can
> look at 12.0S features in CCO.
>
> There are many minor features in protocols. Best way is to look at new
> features in CCO.
>
> Other things I can think of are hardware. Since POS interfaces are common
> in
> SP environment, and the entry-level router for POS is 7200VXR. :) hope
> they'll put in a NPE-G1 or NPE-G2 instead of slower NPE.
>
> I think Cisco is making right move to make the lab more like real world. I
> did mention something like that in my CCIE program survey. :)
>
>
> Tony Schaffran <tschaffran@cconlinelabs.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, there are some minor differences, but nothing significant.
>
> Like Scott described, I think it is more the fact that most people cannot
> separate the lab environment from the real world and were probably
> complaining too much.
>
>
>
> Tony Schaffran
> Network Analyst
> CCIE #11071
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carlos Manjarres [mailto:c_manjarres@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:10 AM
> To: Scott Morris; tschaffran@cconlinelabs.com; 'Joshua Lauer'; 'CCIE LAB'
> Subject: RE: Introduction of the 7200 for the SP lab???
>
>
> I think that they are introducing the Cisco 7200
> because is a real SP plattform :). Some of the
> features that they can ask with the Cisco 7200 are:
>
> - Cisco7200 as Label Switch Controller
> - Local switching
> - AToM - Like to like and Interworking. I don't know
> whether AToM is suported on the Cisco 2800.
> - MPLS TE - Inter Area AS Support
> - MPLS TE - Forwarding adjacency
>
> I am still looking what else is different.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carlos Manjarres
> Systems Engineer
> CCIE #7021
>
> --- Scott Morris wrote:
>
> > I think part of what it is is that people whine and
> > complain. No "serious"
> > SP will be using 2600's and 2800's or 3600/3700/3800
> > in the core of their
> > network. Some people simply cannot separate a
> > testing environment from the
> > real thing despite the fact that technologies (as
> > tested) work the same
> > either place.
> >
> > The use of the 7200 would make it more "real".
> > Other than that, I'm at a
> > loss. There are some extra features, at least with
> > the likes of the NP-1GE
> > or NP-2G processors... But otherwise, unless
> > they're going to bring in some
> > OSR7600's ESR10K's or GSR12K's I don't think there
> > will be any sort of major
> > difference in the lab other than topology and sheer
> > number of interfaces.
> >
> > *shrug* Just my viewpoint. Unless they have
> > something incredibly heinous
> > in mind that I just haven't thought of yet! ;)
> >
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> > Provider) #4713, JNCIE
> > #153, CISSP, et al.
> > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > smorris@ipexpert.com
> > http://www.ipexpert.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Schaffran
> > [mailto:tschaffran@cconlinelabs.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:07 AM
> > To: swm@emanon.com; 'Joshua Lauer'; 'CCIE LAB'
> > Subject: RE: Introduction of the 7200 for the SP
> > lab???
> >
> > That is probably more likely the reason I guess, but
> > SONET interfaces have
> > been around for a while like the 7200. Why now
> > highlight the 7200?
> >
> > Tony Schaffran
> > Network Analyst
> > CCIE #11071
> > CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> > NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm@emanon.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:57 AM
> > To: 'Joshua Lauer'; 'Tony Schaffran'; 'CCIE LAB'
> > Subject: RE: Introduction of the 7200 for the SP
> > lab???
> >
> >
> > And perhaps the introduction of other exciting
> > interface types like SONET?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Joshua Lauer
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:49 AM
> > To: Tony Schaffran; 'CCIE LAB'
> > Subject: Re: Introduction of the 7200 for the SP
> > lab???
> >
> > L2TPV3 ?
> >
> > Afaik the 2800 doesnt support it
> >
> > jl
> >
> >
> > Joshua Lauer
> >
> > CCIE#16024
> > CCNP, CCDP, CCSP, CCIP, RHCE, INFOSEC
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony Schaffran"
> > To: "'CCIE LAB'"
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:48 AM
> > Subject: Introduction of the 7200 for the SP lab???
> >
> >
> > > Can somebody explain to me why cisco is singling
> > > out this router for their
> > > SP lab? What can this particular router do that a
> >
> > > 2800 cannot do in a lab
> > > environment? I know the performance differences,
> > > but is there a fundamental
> > > difference in the IOS?
> > >
> > >
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