From: Chris Broadway (midatlanticnet@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Jun 15 2006 - 15:27:55 ART
But I cannot take the electronic version to my favorite reading area.
-Broadway
On 6/15/06, Joe Rinehart <jjrinehart@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well we are pretty much all engineers here but this kind of thing is
> related
> directly to business decisions. Trying to recoup costs where possible is
> just part of the survival game in business these days. Margins get
> slimmer
> so it has to be made up elsewhere. Of course there are insane ways to do
> that as well, in a previous job no coffee water paper towels or anything
> else was supplied. Even worse, we were told our per diem when training
> was
> $30 when it was actually $35. Office supplied were locked up and the
> finance Nazis policed everything to an extreme level...
>
> Not defending or attacking the decision, just trying to point out the why.
> I could see a decent case for making the electronic version free since no
> printing or postage costs are involved....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Mark
> Lasarko
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 11:03 AM
> To: magmax@bigpond.net.au; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Cisco Charging for Packet now?
>
> "Cisco does not offer much free stuff anymore"
>
> I disagree.
> Networkers' is a perfect example.
> And I don't mean the vendor crap thrown into the crowds or wireless
> access.
> (though some of the t-shirts, gizmos, and gadgets are quite nice at times)
>
> I am referring specifically to the year of access after_the_event.
> It is more information than most humans can absorb there (and have a life
> at
> the same time)
> And it is free.
>
> If you want free stuff just start calling vendors and asking for it!
> Maybe you'll get lucky and they'll send you a nice switch or something! :)
>
> (Translation: I KNOW there are a few vendors who will "give away" devices
> and
> lose money, just to compete - to know that Cisco did not get the sale)
>
> That said, I did not mean to infer that it was wrong for Cisco to decide
> to
> charge for Packet, but on the other hand you have different fingers and a
> debate could be made that at a certain level Cisco-certified individuals,
> or
> perhaps even those organizations that pay the big bucks for services such
> as
> Smartnet, receive some printed copies @ N/C for their staff.
>
> My $.02
> ~M
>
>
>
> >>> "Magmax" <magmax@bigpond.net.au> 06/15/06 8:03 AM >>>
>
> That not fair we spend thousands on training and then we push Cisco
> Products
> to our customers. I think we should look at Nortel or some other vendors.
> Cisco does not offer much free stuff anymore
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Mark
> Lasarko
> Sent: Thursday, 15 June 2006 9:46 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Cisco Charging for Packet now?
>
> Hey y'all, It is a little more than two or three $'s (USD) per issue...
>
> PRINT Edition Pricing:
>
> ONE-YEAR SUBSCRIPTION (4 issues) for just $29.95
> ($36.50 International, US Dollars) - 15% off cover price.
>
> TWO-YEAR SUBSCRIPTION (8 issues) for just $53.70
> ($65.70 International, US Dollars) - 25% off cover price
>
> THREE-YEAR SUBSCRIPTION (12 issues) for just $75.18
> ($91.98 International, US Dollars) - 30% off cover price.
> *Single issue cover price: $8.95 U.S./$10.95
> Internationalhttps://www.cambeywest.com/pkt/pktpaids.asp
>
> 1yr ~ $7.49/issue USD ($9.13 International)
> 2yr ~ $6.71/issue USD ($8.21 International)
> 3yr ~ $6.27/issue USD ($7.67 International)
>
> WTF?
>
> Hopefully they will still offer a free one @ Networkers' next week?
> (Probably the same last free copy we just got in the mail recently)
>
> That's a shame - lot's of good info over the years :(
>
> Complaint Department:
> packet-editor@cisco.com
> ~M
>
>
> >>> "Victor Cappuccio" <cvictor@protokolgroup.com> 06/14/06 7:18 PM >>>
>
> Maybe...
> Especially for people outside the US, and with Dolar Currency restrictions
>
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] En nombre de
> Plank,
> Jason
> Enviado el: Miircoles, 14 de Junio de 2006 06:56 p.m.
> Para: Joe Rinehart; 'Scott Thornton'; 'Cisco certification'
> Asunto: RE: Cisco Charging for Packet now?
>
> Isn't it like 2 or 3 dollars an issue now too?
>
> -------------------
> J. Marshall Plank
> Network Engineer
> 101 Bellevue Parkway
> Wilmington, DE 19809
> E-mail: JPlank@concordefs.com
> Phone: 302-793-5913
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Joe
> Rinehart
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:44 PM
> To: 'Scott Thornton'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: Cisco Charging for Packet now?
>
> Yes found that out recently as well...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Thornton
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 12:19 PM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: Cisco Charging for Packet now?
>
> Did anyone see this? Packet is no longer free for the printed
> edition...it
> now costs money.
>
> I received my renewal notice today and it is no longer free, I checked
> their
> web site to verify.
>
> Interesting...
>
> --
> Scott C Thornton
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