From: Petr Lapukhov (petrsoft@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Jun 12 2006 - 05:26:41 ART
I'm sorry Pierre, I missed that part :)
Okay, now to my plan :) You see, it's quite complex
to work it step-by-step in real life. I wrote it to summarize
my knowledge, and used to read it time to time while preparing
for lab :)
In real life, all you have is your head :) I did not memorize
every single word from my plan :) But I did some planning,
of course. It took me about 35 minutes to redraw a diagrams,
extend them with my notes, and read lab scenario twice from
beginning to end. (I'm very quick with drawings also ;))
Most of the things I mentioned in my plan I have done almost
automatically - thanks to numerous practice labs. At the end
of my analysis I had a bunch of questions to proctor. More
questions have arise in process of configuration too.
As to troubleshooting, I did'nt encointer any serious problems,
just some simple redistributiton issues. The biggest portion
of my lab time was spent on verification, which I done step-by-step,
task by task, and repeated about 4 to 5 times :)
So what I would like to say, is that I recommend everybody to develop
their own lab taking plan, and make it almost automatic with yourself.
You should have some reflex to pass a lab quickly :) Of course, there is
no problem to base your own attack on other's experience.
But you should remember, that there is no single best plan - the best
one is that you design yourself, and that works for your :)
Petr
2006/6/12, Pierre-Alex <paguanel@hotmail.com>:
>
> Petr,
>
> Sorry to be so insistant but you have not replied to my last querry?
>
> " Did you actually follow your plan (the thourough planning
> stage, followed by questioning the proctor, then implementation)
> or did do just went ahead from your head and did it?"
>
> The planning alone (using your method) takes me 1h 30 hours working at
> demoniac speed .
>
> I you are able to do the same in less time, it means that methodology wise
> I
> am doing something wrong ...
>
> Thanks
>
> Pierre-Alex
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pierre-Alex" <paguanel@hotmail.com>
> To: "Petr Lapukhov" <petrsoft@gmail.com>; "Cisco certification"
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 7:48 PM
> Subject: Re: my lab experience
>
>
> > Congratulations again Petr.
> >
> > Just curious, did you actually follow your plan (the thourough planning
> > stage, followed by questioning the proctor, then implementation)
> >
> > or did do just went ahead from your head and did it?
> >
> > Pierre-Alex
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Petr Lapukhov" <petrsoft@gmail.com>
> > To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 7:07 PM
> > Subject: my lab experience
> >
> >
> >> Hello group,
> >>
> >> As I quickly mentioned, I passed my lab on June 8 in Brussels :)
> >>
> >> It was much easier than I thought it would be. Actually, it took
> >> me only 3 hours to complete the lab...
> >>
> >> But now, how many hours did it take for me to prepare? :)
> >>
> >> To be honest, I started my lab studies on spring 2005. At that
> >> moment, I already had about 5 year of networking experience,
> >> and held CCNP/CCDP certificates. My first "wave" of studies
> >> begun with NMC's DoIT. Back in days, I planned to take lab on
> >> Fall 2005, but that plan did not work ;)
> >>
> >> After four months of intensive studies, I decided to cancel my lab,
> >> due to some personal problems :) So I took a break, and shifted my
> >> target to Spring-Summer 2006. At that moment I had a much better
> >> understanding of core R&S topics.
> >>
> >> At the same time, I realized how many things I were missing :)
> >> DoIT's approach is a kind of "kickstart", that makes someone feel
> >> frustration, facing complex topics from very beginning :)
> >>
> >> So then I spet Sep-Dec 2005 working on some CQS exams,
> >> and other regular things, thus having a four months break of
> >> my CCIE studies.
> >>
> >> My second "wave" begun on Jan 2006, with DoIT2. I scheduled my
> >> lab on Jun 8, and reworked every lab from DoIT2. That time I got a
> >> much better feeling. Tasks, that seemed to be complex, become
> >> much more familiar and easy to understand. I also made a habit to
> >> work with DocCD on regular basis, memorizing it's structure and
> >> building navigation skills.
> >>
> >> At that time I got very solid undestanding of core topics, and felt
> more
> >> cofident working with 12.2T/12.3T features. DoIT is especially
> >> focused on all that new features :)
> >>
> >> Up to April 2006, I finished with DoIT2, and started to look for
> >> some different learning sources.
> >>
> >> Fortunately and specially thanks to Brian Dennis, I got a chance to
> >> work with IE's products. That really changed my vision of "lab
> reality".
> >>
> >> First, IE's approach is incremental and well structured, not
> single-shot.
> >> That makes it very attractive for beginners. Secondly, IE has lab
> >> structure
> >> really close to real thing, thanks to backone routers. And finally,
> tasks
> >> formatting and logic is quite different from DoIT's, and score points
> >> system
> >>
> >> is really useful.
> >>
> >> (BTW, both DoIT and IE labs are 3-5 times more harder than real thing
> :)
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, I had no time to begin from the "bottom" again, so
> >> I decided to spend my time just on IEWB-RS Vol1/Vol2. That was
> >> really nice learning experience, which helped me to close undestanding
> >> gaps, as well as to get even more hands-on experience. I finished
> >> my preparations with IE's Core Labs, to cement my fundametal skills.
> >>
> >> After that, I decided to take CheckIT lab, pursuing few goals. First,
> >> I wanted to test my latest "IE experince" with "independent" tool.
> >> Secondly, I wanted to know, how much of "NMC-like" stuff I still
> >> remember :) And finally, CheckIT has automatic grading system
> >> which would like to see in action. Of course, it was also important
> >> to test my time-management skills, as well as to feel "pressure".
> >>
> >> I passed CheckIT Lab13 with score 95, and finally felt myself
> >> confident. CheckIT lab was really hard, and it was a real fun to
> >> pass it :)
> >>
> >> Okay, then I had that last week before my travel date :)
> >> I spent it on IE's Core and Vol 1 labs, as well as DocCD practice.
> >>
> >> The rest part is simple. I came to Brussels, and had two days of
> >> beer-sessions with my friends ;)) That Belgian beer really helped
> >> me to relax :) Okay, not so fun part was that I also got some sunburns,
> >> wandering over water-channels :)
> >>
> >> I came to lab on June 8 completely relaxed (almost careless :)
> >> We had Tom from RTP as our proctor, and I must say he was
> >> very helpful, answering my numerous questions. Our lab
> >> begun at 8:00, and I was finished at 11:00. Remaining time I spent
> >> on coffee drinking, as well as doing countless verifications :) I
> >> hope I did'nt piss that guy left to me, hitting my keyboard
> >> at really insane rate :)
> >>
> >> I got my result next morning, and should say that I had almost
> >> no worry if I will pass or not. I dont know why, maybe I already
> >> got too much impressions from my visit :)
> >>
> >> To summarize my experience, I can say a few things. First, don't
> >> be nervous or afraid of real lab. It is simple. If you worked hard
> >> with workbooks, and really studied in well planned manner, you
> >> should have no problems at all. Just don't hurry too much to
> >> get your number :)
> >>
> >> Secondly, for me, the most funny part were preparations itself.
> >> I really enjoyed working through numerous tasks (i guess my wife
> >> did not :) And the most fun part was communications with really
> >> interesting people over this list :) Thank you guys, it's the best
> >> thing I got from my studies - a lot of people, whom, hopefully,
> >> I could help a little bit.
> >>
> >> I guess it's time for me to take some rest, and go farther that
> >> way, together with all you folks around :)
> >>
> >> HTH
> >> Petr
> >>
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