From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Jun 12 2006 - 05:54:25 ART
Pierre-Alex,
My lord,
As you know, some people who are particularly
well-practiced and have done way to many labs, are
able to to pick up most of what may be enountered on a
lab almost instinctively.
I sat next to a young guy at NMC-2 who passed on his
first attempt and he was a LAB-KILLER, even scored
100% on one of VAL's hardest labs.
He claims he did all but one last task in 2.5 hours
and finished verifying the other before he left.
I sat next to him for a week. He answered any
questions and the only thing that remotely gave him
trouble was interpretation.
He neven used more than 8 hours. Truly a sight to
watch and to draw inspiration from.
Petr is also such a guy, obviously.
He probably looked at his diagrams, his lab
requirments, cleared up anything he was unsure of with
the proctor and began typing away at DEMON-SPEED by
the sounds of it.
Finished before he knew what hit him.
Just worry about what you can do, and do it.
I start my own lab in just under 2.5 hours or so, so I
guess I'll see for myself if it is harder or easier
for me. :)
--- Pierre-Alex <paguanel@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Petr,
>
> Sorry to be so insistant but you have not replied
> to my last querry?
>
> " Did you actually follow your plan (the thourough
> planning
> stage, followed by questioning the proctor, then
> implementation)
> or did do just went ahead from your head and did
> it?"
>
> The planning alone (using your method) takes me 1h
> 30 hours working at
> demoniac speed .
>
> I you are able to do the same in less time, it means
> that methodology wise I
> am doing something wrong ...
>
> Thanks
>
> Pierre-Alex
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pierre-Alex" <paguanel@hotmail.com>
> To: "Petr Lapukhov" <petrsoft@gmail.com>; "Cisco
> certification"
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 7:48 PM
> Subject: Re: my lab experience
>
>
> > Congratulations again Petr.
> >
> > Just curious, did you actually follow your plan
> (the thourough planning
> > stage, followed by questioning the proctor, then
> implementation)
> >
> > or did do just went ahead from your head and did
> it?
> >
> > Pierre-Alex
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Petr Lapukhov" <petrsoft@gmail.com>
> > To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 7:07 PM
> > Subject: my lab experience
> >
> >
> >> Hello group,
> >>
> >> As I quickly mentioned, I passed my lab on June 8
> in Brussels :)
> >>
> >> It was much easier than I thought it would be.
> Actually, it took
> >> me only 3 hours to complete the lab...
> >>
> >> But now, how many hours did it take for me to
> prepare? :)
> >>
> >> To be honest, I started my lab studies on spring
> 2005. At that
> >> moment, I already had about 5 year of networking
> experience,
> >> and held CCNP/CCDP certificates. My first "wave"
> of studies
> >> begun with NMC's DoIT. Back in days, I planned to
> take lab on
> >> Fall 2005, but that plan did not work ;)
> >>
> >> After four months of intensive studies, I decided
> to cancel my lab,
> >> due to some personal problems :) So I took a
> break, and shifted my
> >> target to Spring-Summer 2006. At that moment I
> had a much better
> >> understanding of core R&S topics.
> >>
> >> At the same time, I realized how many things I
> were missing :)
> >> DoIT's approach is a kind of "kickstart", that
> makes someone feel
> >> frustration, facing complex topics from very
> beginning :)
> >>
> >> So then I spet Sep-Dec 2005 working on some CQS
> exams,
> >> and other regular things, thus having a four
> months break of
> >> my CCIE studies.
> >>
> >> My second "wave" begun on Jan 2006, with DoIT2. I
> scheduled my
> >> lab on Jun 8, and reworked every lab from DoIT2.
> That time I got a
> >> much better feeling. Tasks, that seemed to be
> complex, become
> >> much more familiar and easy to understand. I also
> made a habit to
> >> work with DocCD on regular basis, memorizing it's
> structure and
> >> building navigation skills.
> >>
> >> At that time I got very solid undestanding of
> core topics, and felt more
> >> cofident working with 12.2T/12.3T features. DoIT
> is especially
> >> focused on all that new features :)
> >>
> >> Up to April 2006, I finished with DoIT2, and
> started to look for
> >> some different learning sources.
> >>
> >> Fortunately and specially thanks to Brian Dennis,
> I got a chance to
> >> work with IE's products. That really changed my
> vision of "lab reality".
> >>
> >> First, IE's approach is incremental and well
> structured, not single-shot.
> >> That makes it very attractive for beginners.
> Secondly, IE has lab
> >> structure
> >> really close to real thing, thanks to backone
> routers. And finally, tasks
> >> formatting and logic is quite different from
> DoIT's, and score points
> >> system
> >>
> >> is really useful.
> >>
> >> (BTW, both DoIT and IE labs are 3-5 times more
> harder than real thing :)
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, I had no time to begin from the
> "bottom" again, so
> >> I decided to spend my time just on IEWB-RS
> Vol1/Vol2. That was
> >> really nice learning experience, which helped me
> to close undestanding
> >> gaps, as well as to get even more hands-on
> experience. I finished
> >> my preparations with IE's Core Labs, to cement my
> fundametal skills.
> >>
> >> After that, I decided to take CheckIT lab,
> pursuing few goals. First,
> >> I wanted to test my latest "IE experince" with
> "independent" tool.
> >> Secondly, I wanted to know, how much of
> "NMC-like" stuff I still
> >> remember :) And finally, CheckIT has automatic
> grading system
> >> which would like to see in action. Of course, it
> was also important
> >> to test my time-management skills, as well as to
> feel "pressure".
> >>
> >> I passed CheckIT Lab13 with score 95, and finally
> felt myself
> >> confident. CheckIT lab was really hard, and it
> was a real fun to
> >> pass it :)
> >>
> >> Okay, then I had that last week before my travel
> date :)
> >> I spent it on IE's Core and Vol 1 labs, as well
> as DocCD practice.
> >>
> >> The rest part is simple. I came to Brussels, and
> had two days of
> >> beer-sessions with my friends ;)) That Belgian
> beer really helped
> >> me to relax :) Okay, not so fun part was that I
> also got some sunburns,
> >> wandering over water-channels :)
> >>
> >> I came to lab on June 8 completely relaxed
> (almost careless :)
> >> We had Tom from RTP as our proctor, and I must
> say he was
> >> very helpful, answering my numerous questions.
> Our lab
> >> begun at 8:00, and I was finished at 11:00.
> Remaining time I spent
> >> on coffee drinking, as well as doing countless
> verifications :) I
> >> hope I did'nt piss that guy left to me, hitting
> my keyboard
> >> at really insane rate :)
> >>
> >> I got my result next morning, and should say that
> I had almost
> >> no worry if I will pass or not. I dont know why,
> maybe I already
>
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