RE: Argument over Logos and Usage

From: Eric.Stuhl@ferguson.com
Date: Wed May 03 2006 - 09:34:25 ART


Nick,

        There was a good thread on matching mime types a couple of
months back. Check the archives for February, I think.

        I'd suggest looking into NBAR (turn on CEF), and going from
there.
        

Eric Stuhl
CCNP, CCDP, CCSE-NG
Ferguson Enterprises
eric.stuhl@ferguson.com
(757)-969-4146
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Nick Griffin
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 8:23 AM
To: darbyweaver@yahoo.com
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Argument over Logos and Usage

I don't mean to add to the spam, but lets just get on with it.
Apparently everyone's already ready for the lab. Personally I'd rather
learn more about matching mime times with MQC.

darbyweaver@yahoo.com wrote:
> Yes,
>
> Some folks are wrong for putting all of their earned logos in their
signature block.
>
> Yes, some folks seem to be genuinely confused between if Career
Certifications and the CCIE Certifiation are on the same track...
>
> No, We did not come here to listen to one person berate and correct
another person on the usage of their Logos.
>
> Personally, unless you are in charge of the program or have the
ability to manifest a formal reprisal to the person or persons in
question, what is the point...
>
> Do you need to feel like a parent of other people?
>
> Hmmm...
>
> I think everyone who is in question should consult the Logo usage
guidelines.
>
> 1. The Career Certifications are a different family of Certifications
than the CCIE Certifications. Therefore if you are a CCNP, CCSP, CCIP,
CQS, etc. you can probably feel listing them alongside your CCIE.
>
> 2. Career Certifications that are of a higher tier do not and are
recommended by Cisco to not be listed along side the pre-requisite
certification.
>
> Example: a CCNP (who has a CCNA) would only use the following for a
signature block:
>
> Darby Weaver
> CCNP
>
> not
>
> Darby Weaver
> CCNP CCNA
>
> However, a CCNP with a CCDA would use the following:
>
> Darby Weaver
> CCNP CCDA
>
> etc.
>
>
> Now if one were a CCIE then it might look like the follwoing:
>
> Darby Weaver
> CCIE #xxxxx CCNP CCSP CCDP CCIP IPCC UCSE
>
>
> If I am incorrect, please let me know...
>
> However, I did consult both references earlier last week on this same
question and the CCIE Logo Usage Guidelines make no references to the
Career Certifications.
>
> Further, while the Career Certifications explicitly list the desgnated
certifications, they did not list the CCIE.
>
> Another tidbit, is that Cisco "Recommends" not using a CCNP with a
lower order cert like say the CCNA, it does not necessarily enforce this
rule.
>
> However, the CCIE program does have a formal system for reporting
violations of their Logo Usage Guidelines.
>
> This is what I took from the logo guidelines, if I am mistaken, please
cite your example.
>
> I used the Career Certification Logo Guidelines from
cisco.com/go/certifications and the CCIE Logo Guidelines from
cisco.com/go/ccie
>
> I can dig up the exact references if needed.
>
>



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