From: Dennis Hess (dennishess@gmail.com)
Date: Wed May 03 2006 - 08:33:54 ART
Here is Cisco's certification logo guidelines for reference. Your signature
is in direct violation of the agreement that we all signed when we sit a
test. Just FYI in case you weren't aware.
Regards,
Dennis
*The Value of the Cisco Career Certifications*
**1.1. In order to protect the value of the Cisco Career Certifications
program, it is very important that the use of CCNA, CCNP, CCDA CCDP or CCIP
Marks and their associated Logos be used appropriately and only by the
individuals who have earned the right to do so. You may only use the mark
for the highest level of certification you have achieved. Since this is a
certification of an *individual*, the Marks should not be used to promote a
company or any other entity in such a way that might create confusion around
the certification status of other individuals within that company or entity.
If your company wishes to be certified by Cisco Systems, there are specific
corporate programs available that exist to make this possible. For more
information on becoming a Cisco Partner please go to: www.cisco.com
http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/le11/learning_certification_agreements.
html
On 5/3/06, Marius Venter <marius@aict.co.za> wrote:
>
> Now this could lead into an entire new direction. Imagine this, a well
> respected CCNP, CCSP asking me to configure his PIX for him. Is this not
> perhaps where things are going wrong? CCSP = PIX Guru or so I thought. You
> could of course get all the exam questions from this guy in a flash if you
> want it.
>
> Perhaps after all, it is the person that has the certification that
> actually
> adds the value to the certification and the certification does not
> actually
> add much value to the person.
>
> Now that is why I believe that the CCIE is a certification worth pursuing.
> No shortcuts here.
>
> I also know a CCNA that almost single handedly runs one of the biggest ISP
> networks in South Africa and this guy is brilliant.
>
> Makes you think.
>
> My 2 cents worth
>
> Marius Venter
>
> MCP, MCSE, MCSD, MCT, CIWCI, CIW Foundations, CIW Security, JCT, JCP,
> CCNA,
> CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, CCIP, CCSP, CCSI. CCIE = soon :0)
>
> Certifications Devalued?
>
> Hmmm...
>
> Maybe for some...
>
> I'm doing well with my wall of wonders and think that they are one of the
> best investments I've ever made...
>
> They help me a career education-oriented professional. They help keep me
> up
> to date with relevant technologies. And they, they keep me focused on my
> career...
>
> Now if you thing some guys who doesn't know the difference between a CCEA
> and CCNP is going to tell me about the value of my investments, you better
> think again.
>
> It doesn't hurt that I happen to have the CCEA, the MCT, the CCNP, and
> some
> of the choice Voice Certs (UCSE and IPCC), etc.
>
> In addition to others...
>
> Now for those who think having a bunch of certs is counter-productive...
> maybe if you just bought every vendor's certs in a year or two, that might
> be true for YOU...
>
> However, I have achieved my qualfications since the day of the dog, and I
> typically work with most every technology included on my wall...
>
> Which mean's if it is on the alphabet soup list behind my name, I know
> that
> technology. Period. At least to the degree and vintage of the
> certification.
>
> I'll admit I am getting rusty with that CCEA, but hey it usually helps me
> in
> a pinch, and I'm not the guy who is afraid of Citrix or Terminal
> Services...
> :)
>
> My other quals are quite active... and very represntative with my
> day-to-day
> work that I do, so I feel they are quite relevant.
>
> Summary: If you do what you do, know what you know, strive to be better
> tomorrow than you are today or were yesterday, then I.T. is the career
> choice for you...
>
> If you are looking for a rainbow, behind a piece of paper, then you are
> probably one of those certified guys who has an armload of certs but
> somehow
> manage to find themselves delivering pizza or waiting tables...
>
> Just me perspective and yes I have seen folks doing both of those jobs and
> somehow I seem to attract them - delivery people marvel when they see my
> Cisco Rack and a Couple of SGI's in the room just of the entrance to my
> house and the waiters seem to never fail to recognize some of the study
> materials I bring with me while I wait to dine at restaurants...
>
> So I'm not picking on people - those are experiences... Live... And yes,
> I've met the Satellite Installers who are MCSE's too...
>
> So that is not an exaggeration, those are facts...
>
> But hey, the flipside, is I work with almost an entire department of
> non-certified people and most of whom tend to have gotten to where they
> are
> by being hand-selected by the organization.
>
> So, that is both worlds and it is kind of nice to see companies that try
> to
> promote from within before going outside for talent.
>
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