RE: Directly conneted frame-relay

From: Schulz, Dave (DSchulz@dpsciences.com)
Date: Mon Apr 10 2006 - 23:57:38 GMT-3


I would need that only for the example with LMI, correct?

Dave Schulz, CCDP, CCNP, CCSP
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Data Processing Sciences Corporation
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From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm@emanon.com]
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 9:55 AM
To: Schulz, Dave; 'Brian Dennis'; 'Victor Cappuccio'
Cc: 'James Simons'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: Directly conneted frame-relay

You need to have an output interface on your frame-relay route command. That
says "if a DLCI comes in here, send it out someplace else"

HTH,

Scott

________________________________

From: Schulz, Dave [mailto:DSchulz@dpsciences.com]
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 9:05 AM
To: swm@emanon.com; Brian Dennis; Victor Cappuccio
Cc: James Simons; Cisco certification
Subject: RE: Directly conneted frame-relay

So, if I may summarize (please let me know if I have this right).... to run
frame-relay (L3) over the router on a point-to-point.....you have two ways to
accomplish this....

With LMI enabled.....

interface Serial1/2
 ip address 10.1.1.3 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation frame-relay
 clockrate 64000
 frame-relay map ip 10.1.1.1 131 broadcast

frame-relay intf-type dce
frame-relay route 121

or with no LMI.....

interface Serial1/2
 ip address 10.1.1.3 255.255.255.0

 no keepalive
 encapsulation frame-relay
 clockrate 64000
 frame-relay map ip 10.1.1.1 131 broadcast

Correct?

Dave Schulz

dschulz@dpsciences.com

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From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm@emanon.com]
Sent: Mon 4/10/2006 12:06 AM
To: 'Brian Dennis'; 'Victor Cappuccio'; Schulz, Dave
Cc: 'James Simons'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: Directly conneted frame-relay

Allow me to pull some teeth and split some hairs here... (or is it split
teeth and pull hairs?)

For a >>particular DLCI<<, you are either in L2 mode or in L3 mode. As you
demonstrated, yes, things can go either way, but when you look at any ONE
DLCI you make a choice.

And I only figured that I needed to be THAT specific on my wording when I
was either running for political office or talking to my daughter.

Now where was that original question going anyway? I'm sure it was leading
towards BGP not working right. Or telnet, yeah, musta been telnet.

But yes, in order to increase the chances for a date, you can go both ways.
L2 or L3. Just not both on the same interface for the same DLCI. But you
still need to make some choice as to which way you're going, otherwise the
evening will become very confusing.

Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
#153, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI
IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Dennis [mailto:bdennis@internetworkexpert.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 11:38 PM
To: swm@emanon.com; Victor Cappuccio; Schulz, Dave
Cc: James Simons; Cisco certification
Subject: RE: Directly conneted frame-relay

Actually you can still do both. Below is a configuration showing a router
(R3) configured as a Frame Relay switch and as an "end point" in the same
network.

Rack1R1#sho run int s0/1
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 175 bytes
!
interface Serial0/1
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation frame-relay
 frame-relay map ip 10.1.1.2 121 broadcast frame-relay map ip 10.1.1.3 131
broadcast end

Rack1R1#

Rack1R2#sho run int s0/1
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 175 bytes
!
interface Serial0/1
 ip address 10.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation frame-relay
 frame-relay map ip 10.1.1.1 121 broadcast frame-relay map ip 10.1.1.3 232
broadcast end

Rack1R2#

Rack1R3#sho run | in frame-relay switching frame-relay switching Rack1R3#sho
run int s1/2 Building configuration...

Current configuration : 223 bytes
!
interface Serial1/2
 ip address 10.1.1.3 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation frame-relay
 clockrate 64000
 frame-relay map ip 10.1.1.1 131 broadcast frame-relay intf-type dce
frame-relay route 121 interface Serial1/3 121 end

Rack1R3#sho run int s1/3
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 223 bytes
!
interface Serial1/3
 ip address 10.1.1.3 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation frame-relay
 clockrate 64000
 frame-relay map ip 10.1.1.2 232 broadcast frame-relay intf-type dce
frame-relay route 121 interface Serial1/2 121 end

Rack1R3#

Rack1R1#ping 10.1.1.2

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.2, timeout is 2 seconds:
!!!!!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 56/57/60 ms
Rack1R1#ping 10.1.1.3

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.3, timeout is 2 seconds:
!!!!!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 28/29/32 ms
Rack1R1#
Rack1AS>2
[Resuming connection 2 to r2 ... ]

Rack1R2#ping 10.1.1.1

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
!!!!!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 56/56/60 ms
Rack1R2#ping 10.1.1.3

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.3, timeout is 2 seconds:
!!!!!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 28/29/32 ms
Rack1R2#
Rack1AS>3
[Resuming connection 3 to r3 ... ]

Rack1R3#ping 10.1.1.1

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
!!!!!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 28/29/32 ms
Rack1R3#ping 10.1.1.2

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.1.2, timeout is 2 seconds:
!!!!!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 28/31/32 ms
Rack1R3#

HTH,

Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
bdennis@internetworkexpert.com

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 -----Original Message-----
From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm@emanon.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 5:16 PM
To: 'Victor Cappuccio'; 'Schulz, Dave'
Cc: Brian Dennis; 'James Simons'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: Directly conneted frame-relay

If you don't issue and "frame-relay route" commands, then you can still
participate in the frame-relay directly. As soon as you choose to set up
L2 virtual circuits though, you are correct Dave in that you are no longer
playing at Layer 3.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Victor Cappuccio [mailto:cvictor@protokolgroup.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 2:09 AM
To: Schulz, Dave
Cc: Scott Morris; Brian Dennis; James Simons; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: Directly conneted frame-relay

Dave, I had the same misconcept, but my FRSW is working like a normal router
running OSPF / BGP / Mcast ...
BTW is the BB2 of the IE Rack...

Schulz, Dave escribis:
> However, doesn't the use of frame-switching on the router....cause the
router
> to cease functioning as a router and begin to function as a frame switch?
>
> Dave
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com on behalf of Scott Morris
> Sent: Sun 4/9/2006 12:49 AM
> To: 'Brian Dennis'; 'James Simons'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: Directly conneted frame-relay
>
>
>
> True. The answer was to the config present.
>
> Either way, the config was missing. ;)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Dennis [mailto:bdennis@internetworkexpert.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 12:31 AM
> To: Scott Morris; James Simons; Cisco certification
> Subject: RE: Directly conneted frame-relay
>
> Back-to-back Frame Relay can be done with or without LMI.
>
> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/resources/backtoback-framerelay.htm
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Scott Morris
> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 5:37 PM
> To: 'James Simons'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: Directly conneted frame-relay
>
> One of those small things in life called LMI. ;) No frame switch =
> no LMI...
>
> Check out:
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk713/tk237/technologies_configuration
> _e
> xamp
> le09186a0080094a3b.shtml
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> JNCIE #153, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI
> IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
> IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.com
> http://www.ipexpert.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of James Simons
> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 8:28 PM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: Directly conneted frame-relay
>
> hello all,
>
> I am trying to configure a frame-relay connection between two directly
> connected routers. I believe what I have should work but when I do
> flap
the
> interface, the line protocol comes up for a few seconds and then goes
> back down. Is there ayway to do this without using PPPoFR? my config is
below.
>
> thanks,
>
> jimmy
>
> R1----------
>
> int s0/0
> no ip address
> encapsulation frame-relay
> clockrate 64000
>
> int s0/0.1 point-to-point
> ip address 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.0
> frame-relay interface-dlci 100
>
> R2------------
> int s0/0
> no ip address
> encapsulation frame-relay
>
> int s0/0.1 point-to-point
> ip address 10.10.10.2 255.255.255.0
> frame-relay interface-dlci 100
>
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