From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Sun Jan 08 2006 - 12:06:29 GMT-3
Not to mention that while there are 13,000+ R&S CCIE's, there are only 250
or so SP CCIE's and 220'ish Voice CCIEs. There's over 550 Security ones.
Markets can always be found (not necessarily your primary choice for
location), so it's just what do you want to do!
_____
From: Kim Onnel [mailto:karim.adel@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 9:47 AM
To: CCIEin2006
Cc: swm@emanon.com; Imal kalutotage; Suzan S.; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: SP CCIE
maybe just maybe ur right in the states for example, but thats not the whole
world, in other places, ISPs is a new business and alot of people are doing
it, not to forget that GSM and mobile operators will deploy MPLS with 3G, so
there are alot of chances but in diff. parts of the world.
On 1/8/06, CCIEin2006 <ciscocciein2006@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed - there are large enterprises that do run MPLS in their core but your
job opportunities are limitied to a select few multinationals.
The vast majority of enterprises do not run such protocols or as another
poster stated you don't need to configure MPLS protocol on your router to
use MPLS for WAN connectivity, you merely configure BGP to peer with the
edge routers.
But my point is the technologies learned in the SP track will only be useful
in Service Provider networks and a select handfull of mega corporations.
If you do go for these jobs, you will be competing with thousands of ex-SP
engineers who are still looking for work. Many of these service
provider engineers have Phd's and years of experience which in some
employers eyes looks better than a newbie with a CCIE certification.
Basically what I am saying is that if you want the most job opportunities
possible go for something that every company needs, like voice and security.
On 1/8/06, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
>
> The telecommunications company have been laying people off for years. But
> the technologies covered in the "Service Provider" track are not just for
> phone company networks. Service Providers come at many levels of ISP,
> including some large enterprises that have their own MPLS core. But
> InterDomain networking (Multicast/MSDP, MPLS, MPLS-VPN) is useful within
> many different areas of the world we live in.
>
> I was simply disputing the previous post where someone asked "Why
> bother?"... There is money to be made out there, because these types of
> networks are typically very complex, and need people with a good
> understanding of how they work in order to design and/or manage the
> network. Just ask yourself what you WANT to do, and you'll find a way to
> make that happen!
>
> HTH,
>
> Scott
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Imal kalutotage [mailto: imal.kalutotage@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 08, 2006 1:41 AM
> *To:* Scott Morris
> *Cc:* CCIEin2006; Suzan S.; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> *Subject:* Re: SP CCIE
>
>
> Hi Scott,
> I didnot understand, your mail at all.. sorry for my poor english..
> Can you re-phrase it.. Becase I donot want to miss your valuable inputs..
> Because I am also interested in SP track, But if no scope or money in
> there
> then I should spend my time on something else..
>
> Pls advice
> Cheers
> Imal
>
>
> On 1/8/06, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
> >
> > I would hope though, that those being laid off are not the necessary
> > talent
> > needed to keep things running. Or, on the flip side, there's nothing
> > wrong
> > with consulting in gigs that deal in those kinds of issues.
> >
> > And "service provider" is WAY beyond the stereotypical telco structure
> > from
> > years gone by.
> >
> > There's plenty of work to be had.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > CCIEin2006
> > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 2:44 PM
> > To: Suzan S.
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: SP CCIE
> >
> > Why bother? Service providers are still laying people off since the
> > dot-bomb
> > and World-con days...
> >
> > On 1/6/06, Suzan S. < suzan_ccie@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dears,
> > >
> > > Please anyone took the SP CCIE lab this month? How is the Lab? and is
> > > there any good preparation workbooks?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Suzan
> > >
> > >
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