From: PhiL (theccie@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jan 08 2006 - 11:50:17 GMT-3
I will have to disagree here. The Telecommunications companies are going
through major changes in their networks and in the way they do business.
I bet that most of the laid off people does not have a clue about MPLS or
very little knowledge on MPLS and may have lots of experiences with
Frame-Relay and ATM. The majority will not be your direct competition on
Service Provider jobs. Also there are requirements for VoIP and Security in
the SP arena as well.
Just my 0.02.
PhiL
On 1/8/06, CCIEin2006 <ciscocciein2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Agreed - there are large enterprises that do run MPLS in their core but
> your
> job opportunities are limitied to a select few multinationals.
>
> The vast majority of enterprises do not run such protocols or as another
> poster stated you don't need to configure MPLS protocol on your router to
> use MPLS for WAN connectivity, you merely configure BGP to peer with the
> edge routers.
>
> But my point is the technologies learned in the SP track will only be
> useful
> in Service Provider networks and a select handfull of mega corporations.
> If you do go for these jobs, you will be competing with thousands of ex-SP
> engineers who are still looking for work. Many of these service
> provider engineers have Phd's and years of experience which in some
> employers eyes looks better than a newbie with a CCIE certification.
>
> Basically what I am saying is that if you want the most job opportunities
> possible go for something that every company needs, like voice and
> security.
>
>
> On 1/8/06, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
> >
> > The telecommunications company have been laying people off for
> years. But
> > the technologies covered in the "Service Provider" track are not just
> for
> > phone company networks. Service Providers come at many levels of ISP,
> > including some large enterprises that have their own MPLS core. But
> > InterDomain networking (Multicast/MSDP, MPLS, MPLS-VPN) is useful within
> > many different areas of the world we live in.
> >
> > I was simply disputing the previous post where someone asked "Why
> > bother?"... There is money to be made out there, because these types of
> > networks are typically very complex, and need people with a good
> > understanding of how they work in order to design and/or manage the
> > network. Just ask yourself what you WANT to do, and you'll find a way
> to
> > make that happen!
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Imal kalutotage [mailto:imal.kalutotage@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Sunday, January 08, 2006 1:41 AM
> > *To:* Scott Morris
> > *Cc:* CCIEin2006; Suzan S.; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > *Subject:* Re: SP CCIE
> >
> >
> > Hi Scott,
> > I didnot understand, your mail at all.. sorry for my poor english..
> > Can you re-phrase it.. Becase I donot want to miss your valuable
> inputs..
> > Because I am also interested in SP track, But if no scope or money in
> > there
> > then I should spend my time on something else..
> >
> > Pls advice
> > Cheers
> > Imal
> >
> >
> > On 1/8/06, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would hope though, that those being laid off are not the necessary
> > > talent
> > > needed to keep things running. Or, on the flip side, there's nothing
> > > wrong
> > > with consulting in gigs that deal in those kinds of issues.
> > >
> > > And "service provider" is WAY beyond the stereotypical telco structure
> > > from
> > > years gone by.
> > >
> > > There's plenty of work to be had.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > CCIEin2006
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 2:44 PM
> > > To: Suzan S.
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: SP CCIE
> > >
> > > Why bother? Service providers are still laying people off since the
> > > dot-bomb
> > > and World-con days...
> > >
> > > On 1/6/06, Suzan S. < suzan_ccie@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dears,
> > > >
> > > > Please anyone took the SP CCIE lab this month? How is the Lab? and
> is
> > > > there any good preparation workbooks?
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Suzan
> > > >
> > > >
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