From: CCIEin2006 (ciscocciein2006@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jan 08 2006 - 11:04:42 GMT-3
I think what Scott is saying (without putting words in his mouth) is that if
you're good at what you do, you won't get laid off.
What I'm saying is that corporate CEO's don't give a rats a$$ about your
CCIE certification. When its time to cut head count you will get laid off
even if you have six CCIE's. Sure they may keep you around a few extra weeks
(which may be enough time to find another job as you wait for the impending
doom) but the end result is the same.
I'm sorry to sound cynical, but I have a few good friends (one of them is a
brilliant CCIE) who got laid off when the World-CON $hit hit the fan. Then
just when you thought it was safe to go back into the service
provider waters SBC and ATT merged and another one of my talented buddies
got laid off.
Three reasons why the Service Provider track is a bad idea:
1. Dot-bomb - yup we're still in the recession.
2. World-CON - Still feeling that too.
3. Mergers and acquisitions - service providers are consolidating and buying
each other out - which means laying off redundant staff.
I would suggest taking either the Voice track or the Security track - both
of which are hot items right now. Just do a search on your favorite job site
and see how many hits you get for VOIP.
Which brings me to another gripe - why are companies suddenly expecting you
to become an expert at both Routing/Switching and Voice? Isn't that kind of
like expecting a neurosurgeon to also be an expert dentist? We're talking
about two different specialties here! I mean sure there are some
commonalities in the tracks such as QOS but other than that configuring Call
Manager and Unity is a totally separate skill altogether. I firmly believe
that if try to be the jack of all trades you will be the master of none.
I apologize in advance for my bitchy tone, just having a bad week.
On 1/8/06, Imal kalutotage <imal.kalutotage@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott,
> I didnot understand, your mail at all.. sorry for my poor english..
> Can you re-phrase it.. Becase I donot want to miss your valuable inputs..
> Because I am also interested in SP track, But if no scope or money in
> there
> then I should spend my time on something else..
>
> Pls advice
> Cheers
> Imal
>
>
> On 1/8/06, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
>
> > I would hope though, that those being laid off are not the necessary
> > talent
> > needed to keep things running. Or, on the flip side, there's nothing
> > wrong
> > with consulting in gigs that deal in those kinds of issues.
> >
> > And "service provider" is WAY beyond the stereotypical telco structure
> > from
> > years gone by.
> >
> > There's plenty of work to be had.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > CCIEin2006
> > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 2:44 PM
> > To: Suzan S.
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: SP CCIE
> >
> > Why bother? Service providers are still laying people off since the
> > dot-bomb
> > and World-con days...
> >
> > On 1/6/06, Suzan S. < suzan_ccie@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dears,
> > >
> > > Please anyone took the SP CCIE lab this month? How is the Lab? and is
> > > there any good preparation workbooks?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Suzan
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Yahoo! Photos
> > > Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events,
> > > holidays, whatever.
> > >
> > > ______________________________________________________________________
> >
> > > _ Subscription information may be found at:
> > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > Subscription information may be found at:
> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > Subscription information may be found at:
> > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.4 : Wed Feb 01 2006 - 07:45:47 GMT-3