Re: OT - Good Intro to MPLS book

From: D R (deep.ratan@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Dec 16 2005 - 19:31:41 GMT-3


you modify nothing. sweet eh? just think og mpls as one big pvt vlan. you're
using teh SP's network but it's YOUR pvt network, isolated from everyone
else. of course you can route traffic from this vlan out to internet routers
if you wish.

the SP will give you the WAN link addresses and you'll need to configure
your gear with those. ...but you don't need to change your LAN networks at
all. the ISP will accept and advertize whatever IP blocks you give them,
public or private doesn't matter. It's an *isolated* network, never hits the
"internet at large", so there's nothing to change.

one suggestion......if you want all your locations to access the internet
from one central site (your head office location for example)....make sure
you get a fat pipe at that location and inject a default route via BGP....

for a diagram....think of a FR cloud with several spoke sites...that's
pretty much it. if one site goes down, all the other sites are still
reachable via the cloud (eliminates the need for traditional point-to-point
links between each location).

On 12/16/05, CCIEin2006 <ciscocciein2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Deep,
>
> You pretty much answered all of my questions.
>
> Regarding design I was wondering if I would have to modify my topology and
> addressing scheme?
> Do you use public IP addressing or private addressing when peering with
> the provider?
> Do you know of any good sample diagrams on the web?
>
> Thanks much!
>
> On 12/16/05, D R <deep.ratan@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/16/05, CCIEin2006 < ciscocciein2006@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the recommendation.
> > >
> > > 1. How to choose an MPLS provider and choose among their various
> > > service
> > > offerings.
> >
> > I guess you can pick up the phone and call reps from ISPs in your area.
> > Often, new ISPs are quick to adopt newer technologies. Older ISPs
eventually
> > ramp up but the process is often cumbersome.
> >
> >
> > 2. Learn the differences between the SP managing the edge routers and
> > > my
> > > company managing the edge routers.
> >
> > If the SP manages the edge routers, they'll ship you the equipment,
> > offer to set it up (or you can do it yourself) and maintain/monitor/fix
the
> > router along with the circuit for the length of the contract. Non
technical
> > business are better off letting the SP manage the router. Business that
have
> > in-house network guys may benefit from managing the edge routers
themselves
> > for greater 'control'. SPs won't let you touch the routers if they are
> > managing them.
> >
> >
> > 3. Learn how to configure routing between the edge routers.
> >
> > To you, it's just a BGP network. Forget MPLS. You'll use the SP's pvt
> > AS# and peer with them. The ISP will assign your company unique tags and
VRF
> > numbers that will ensure that your "vlan" doesn't cross anybody else's.
The
> > SP will route between all your edge routers.
> >
> >
> > 4. I have a pretty good grasp of BGP. Is there anything specific to MPLS
> > > that I would need to configure if I plan to use BGP between the
> > > providers?
> >
> > Nothing. Zero. You can have BGP running with two different SPs on teh
> > same edge router and use whatever BGP method to prefer one route over
the
> > other. Again, MPLS is totally transparent to you.
> >
> >
> > 5. We plan to use two different MPLS providers for redundancy. How will
> > > that
> > > affect my network design?
> >
> > Elaborate on the question a little?
> >
> >
> > On 12/16/05, Peter Van Oene < petvan@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Rekhter/Davie book is an excellent beginning, and isn't caught
> > > up in
> > > > vendor specifics, which if you are going to look at IETF docs, or
> > > other
> > > > vendor implementations, getting a vendor neutral start is the
> > > best. The
> > > > IETF MPLS WG is also a great, and free resource with better
> > > information
> > > > that
> > > > you'll find in most books.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 12/16/05, Kim Onnel < karim.adel@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > HE is correct, CsC is what you are looking for
> > > > >
> > > > > Read the MPLS and VPN arch. vol | book
> > > > >
> > > > > and then MPLS configurations examples, both cisco press
> > > > >
> > > > > On 12/16/05, D R <deep.ratan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There's no MPLS configs on an edge router. You'll connect to the
> > > ISPs
> > > > > MPLS
> > > > > > network via static or BGP (latter is prefered) routing. To the
> > > edge,
> > > > > MPLS
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > transparent. Hopefully some others can recommend a book to
> > > you....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 12/16/05, CCIEin2006 <ciscocciein2006@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can anyone recommend a good intro to MPLS book - specifically
> > > from
> > > > an
> > > > > > > enterprise and not from a service provider point of view.
> > > > > > > I don't want to be bothered with the details of how MPLS works
> > > in a
> > > > > > telco
> > > > > > > cloud, but I would like to know how to manage
> > > > > > > the customer edge routers if my company plans on moving to
> > > MPLS.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
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