From: joshua lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Dec 01 2005 - 07:59:01 GMT-3
Your right!!
That's pretty good dough :)
jl
Josh Lauer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leigh Harrison" <ccileigh@gmail.com>
To: <ticong@comcast.net>
Cc: "Leigh Nash" <leigh@net-elite.org>; "'Scott Thornton'"
<scthornton@gmail.com>; "'Cisco certification'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:16 AM
Subject: Re: Internetworkexpert Workbook Order - OT
> Brian,
>
> $80,000 ? I'll come a work for you !!!
>
> I'm hard working (honest), pertty smart (in my own mind) and very good
> with customers (If I like them)
>
> You'll have to pay for my airfare form the UK though.... ;)
>
> LH
>
> ticong@comcast.net wrote:
>
>>You guys clocking my email. Though this group is for study. If you can not
>>get the materials you need, try someoneelse. There are someone out there
>>is better in all aspect from content of material to customer services,
>>etcc.. to a whole nine yards, such as NMC.
>>I personally use both IE and NMC and so as some people I've met. We are
>>all agree NMC products and services is second to none.
>>I'm first sorry to hear this story about IE, I have same problem to get in
>>touch with either IE sales, supports, or even email Brian Dennis directly
>>about some knowledge questions or their products(CCIE security has
>>discontinued but I did not know it had been discontinued) in the past, but
>>I got no response:). What's a joke. I'm their former END-TO-END CCIE
>>STUDENT just couple months ago. They even messed one of my CCIE online
>>class that did not have my log in for the class untill the first day of
>>class is over and after hours of waiting on live chat with IE.
>>Go figure...
>>
>>
>>-------------- Original message --------------
>>
>>
>>>In the defense of Scott Morris, I am using voodoo on John. If John
>>>suddenly gets quiet, we have the 'gas attack method' to thank.
>>>http://www.funsilly.com/voodoo.html
>>>Leigh
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>>Scott Thornton Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:07 PM To: Scott Morris
>>>Cc: John Do; ccielab@groupstudy.com Subject: Re: Internetworkexpert
>>>Workbook Order - OT
>>>Your note wasn't disrespectful Scott. I wouldn't worry about it, I have
>>>never seen any of the regular posters on this forum be egotistical or
>>>show a lack of respect. I think about 99.9% of people on this forum would
>>>agree that you guys are very helpful and aren't getting paid to help
>>>everyone else attain their knowledge goals, which is what you're doing by
>>>continuing to monitor these posts and provide technical assistance. John
>>>is being contradictory in saying "mind your own business", especially
>>>when he's copying the entire list on the emails to IE. If one were truly
>>>concerned with offering a tip to a company, you wouldn't copy thousands
>>>of people.
>>>Thanks for your continued humor, posts and help in attaining our
>>>certification goals.
>>>On 11/29/05, Scott Morris wrote:
>>>>John,
>>>>I'm not sure what part of my e-mail was interpreted as my putting you
>>>down,
>>>>but it more certainly wasn't intended that way. My apologies if you were
>>>>somehow disrespected. And here I thought that ending with humor was a
>>>good
>>>>idea...
>>>>My point was simply in agreeing with Brian about the business sense of
>>>>hiring someone, or equating it to the example that I believe you gave
>>>about
>>>>the various mall employees around the holiday time.
>>>>I'm missing where I came off as being egotistical or believing to be
>>>>above anyone by simply expressing an opinion not inline with your own,
>>>>but if that's what it is, that's what it is... If you've ever known me,
>>>>read my e-mails or seen me speak, you'd know that carrying an ego is the
>>>>furthest thing from who I am. Along those lines, you'll also notice that
>>>>I do not post with my signature in e-mails simply to make points like
>>>>that.
>>>>So I'll go back and rethink my respect (or lack thereof) and keep my
>>>>nose out of your conversation "offline" with Brian (that is magically
>>>>getting copied to the list going all over the world).
>>>>Sorry dude. *shrug*
>>>>Scott
>>>>
>>>>_____
>>>>From: John Do [mailto:mcseccnp03@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 29,
>>>>2005 9:34 PM To: Scott Morris; ccielab@groupstudy.com Subject: RE:
>>>>Internetworkexpert Workbook Order - OT
>>>>
>>>>Woooo slow down here Scott I know that you are a quad CCIE, a guru at
>>>>networking, and been helping this study group out for many years. But
>>>>that does not mean that you can put me down like that. I don't give a
>>>>shit if
>>>you
>>>>have ten CCIE and been on this study group for year in the end you are
>>>just
>>>>a human being like me and I feel that I should be treated with respect.
>>>>This conversation has been offline between me and Brian Dennis for the
>>>past
>>>>hour or so and I would appreciate if you can mind your own business. If
>>>you
>>>>wish to share your thought share it with respect.
>>>>Again, this conversation from the start was intended to know if anyone
>>>else
>>>>has the same problem as me with the IE workbook upgrade. Last but not
>>>least,
>>>>Brian was mentioning about sale and business sense and all I did was
>>>giving
>>>>him some of my ideas and thought with respect.
>>>>I have been on this group for a couple of years now and I had noticed
>>>beside
>>>>all the CCIE study materials, was "some" of these CCIE thinking they are
>>>the
>>>>shit. For a refresh in memory we are all human being and we are all
>>>>equal. The CCIE certification will help you in some of your job issues
>>>>but also bring some issue at the same time ;-).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Scott Morris wrote:
>>>>Not to break into the festivities here... But would you really like a
>>>>temporary person at-or-near minimum wage to attempt to answer your
>>>questions
>>>>about a technical product? Or keep putting you on hold (for large
>>>>periods of time) while trying to find answers for you?
>>>>While I don't profess to know much about Brian's business sense or
>>>business
>>>>model, I would have to agree with him that hiring someone temporarily
>>>isn't
>>>>necessarily a good idea.
>>>>That doesn't mean that he can't find ways to improve things (everyone
>>>can),
>>>>but IMHO that wouldn't be it. And this forum wouldn't be the place to
>>>>air that laundry anyway.
>>>>Would you like some fries with that? Or a picture with Santa? Or perhaps
>>>>a free sample of perfume? (akin to the temporary help in some mall
>>>>shops)
>>>>Personally, I'm looking to hire those guys from Capital One. I think
>>>>they'll make a much more exciting marketing statement. ;)
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>>John
>>>>Do Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:37 PM To: Brian Dennis;
>>>>ccielab@groupstudy.com Subject: RE: Internetworkexpert Workbook Order -
>>>>OT
>>>>Brian,
>>>>Are you saying that the entire mall in the United State does not make
>>>>any business sense because they hire more sale people just for the
>>>>holiday season? The choice to hire are not is not my concern. Instead
>>>>that is your concern because that is your company. From the start I was
>>>>just curious if anyone else is having the same problem as I am. Also,
>>>>since you had mentioned about "Sale" I was just giving you my 2 cents
>>>>from a customer point of view. Last but not least, now you have mention
>>>>about "business sense" so I'm just giving you my thought about it.
>>>>Simple as that and
>>>lets
>>>>leave it like that...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Brian Dennis wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:*
>>>>{behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape
>>>>{behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }
>>>>John, Like I said we arent going to hire someone just for the few days
>>>>after the workbook is released. If you left a voice mail it will be
>>>>followed up on. I dont see a voice mail in the sales log from anyone
>>>named
>>>>John.
>>>>Lastly if you want to purchase someone elses workbook because you cant
>>>>reach as sales person during our busiest time then thats your choice
>>>>but Im not going to hire someone just because you cant get a hold of
>>>>someone during these first few days after the new workbook is released.
>>>>It doesnt make business sense.
>>>>
>>>>Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
>>>>bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>>>>
>>>>Internetwork Expert, Inc. http://www.InternetworkExpert.com Toll Free:
>>>>877-224-8987 Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>---------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>From: John Do [mailto:mcseccnp03@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 29,
>>>>2005 4:00 PM To: Brian Dennis; ccielab@groupstudy.com Subject: RE:
>>>>Internetworkexpert Workbook Order - OT
>>>>
>>>>Group & Brian,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Brian when we are talking about sale we are not talking about the value
>>>>but more of a person or a human being. You can make a million out of a
>>>>single product, but if the customer doesn't return due to the fact no
>>>>sale person pick up the phone then that million of dollars will be gone
>>>>before you will even notice. If you only make one cent out of a single
>>>>product
>>>but
>>>>the customer return then that one cent will be million before you will
>>>even
>>>>notice. That is just my 2 cents and I will give you a call tomorrow ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Brian Dennis wrote: John, So we should hire another sales person just
>>>>because we are swamped for the first few days after the release of the
>>>>new workbook? Ok we'll do that
>>>just
>>>>for you but now your workbook is going to cost $80,495. That's $80,000
>>>>to cover the cost of the new sales person and $495 for the workbook ;-)
>>>>So
>>>it's
>>>>probably better to just call me directly so that we don't have to tack
>>>>on the $80,000 to your workbook ;-) But if you want the new sales person
>>>option
>>>>let me know and I'll even throw in free shipping.
>>>>HTH,
>>>>Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
>>>>bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>>>>Internetwork Expert, Inc. http://www.InternetworkExpert.com Toll Free:
>>>>877-224-8987 Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>>>>________________________________________ From: John Do
>>>>[mailto:mcseccnp03@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 3:10 PM
>>>>To: Brian Dennis; ccielab@groupstudy.com Subject: RE: Internetworkexpert
>>>>Workbook Order
>>>>Group & Brian,
>>>>Thank you to everyone that took the time and patience to send out they
>>>>thoughts. I guess there is not much that I can do but keep sending email
>>>and
>>>>try to call them back. Last but not least, Brian you " should " spend
>>>>some money and hire some sale rep so that the service would be the same
>>>>as the workbook ;-).
>>>>
>>>>Brian Dennis wrote: John, Sorry if you are experiencing any delays but
>>>>our sales team is totally swamped to say the least. Today alone they
>>>>received over 200 sales e-mails and at least 60 phone calls. That's not
>>>>even taking into account the literally hundreds of upgrade orders that
>>>>they have been processing since the new workbook was released late last
>>>>week.
>>>>If you have a specific questions feel free to call me directly at
>>>>+1.775.745.6404. I'm sure that I "should" be able to answer any
>>>>questions you have ;-)
>>>>
>>>>Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
>>>>bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>>>>Internetwork Expert, Inc. http://www.InternetworkExpert.com Toll Free:
>>>>877-224-8987 Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>>John
>>>>Do Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:35 AM To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>>Subject: Internetworkexpert Workbook Order
>>>>Hello Group,
>>>>Does anyone else having the same problem as I am? When ever I try to
>>>contact
>>>>internetworkexpert no one ever pick up the phone. I have been trying to
>>>>contact them since beginning of last week till now. It seems that they
>>>>do not have any sale rep and also no operator person to talk to. I'm
>>>>kind of confused and I would like to know if anyone else is having this
>>>>same problem. Last but not least, I had also tried to send them emails
>>>>but
>>>still
>>>>no luck. They workbook is great but what is the use and advantage if you
>>>can
>>>>not get a hold of them.
>>>>
>>>>
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