From: Leigh Harrison (ccileigh@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Dec 01 2005 - 07:16:29 GMT-3
Brian,
$80,000 ? I'll come a work for you !!!
I'm hard working (honest), pertty smart (in my own mind) and very good
with customers (If I like them)
You'll have to pay for my airfare form the UK though.... ;)
LH
ticong@comcast.net wrote:
>You guys clocking my email. Though this group is for study. If you can not get the materials you need, try someoneelse. There are someone out there is better in all aspect from content of material to customer services, etcc.. to a whole nine yards, such as NMC.
>I personally use both IE and NMC and so as some people I've met. We are all agree NMC products and services is second to none.
>I'm first sorry to hear this story about IE, I have same problem to get in touch with either IE sales, supports, or even email Brian Dennis directly about some knowledge questions or their products(CCIE security has discontinued but I did not know it had been discontinued) in the past, but I got no response:). What's a joke. I'm their former END-TO-END CCIE STUDENT just couple months ago. They even messed one of my CCIE online class that did not have my log in for the class untill the first day of class is over and after hours of waiting on live chat with IE.
>Go figure...
>
>
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>
>
>
>>In the defense of Scott Morris, I am using voodoo on John. If John suddenly
>>gets quiet, we have the 'gas attack method' to thank.
>>
>>http://www.funsilly.com/voodoo.html
>>
>>Leigh
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>Scott Thornton
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:07 PM
>>To: Scott Morris
>>Cc: John Do; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>Subject: Re: Internetworkexpert Workbook Order - OT
>>
>>Your note wasn't disrespectful Scott. I wouldn't worry about it, I
>>have never seen any of the regular posters on this forum be
>>egotistical or show a lack of respect. I think about 99.9% of people
>>on this forum would agree that you guys are very helpful and aren't
>>getting paid to help everyone else attain their knowledge goals, which
>>is what you're doing by continuing to monitor these posts and provide
>>technical assistance. John is being contradictory in saying "mind
>>your own business", especially when he's copying the entire list on
>>the emails to IE. If one were truly concerned with offering a tip to
>>a company, you wouldn't copy thousands of people.
>>
>>Thanks for your continued humor, posts and help in attaining our
>>certification goals.
>>
>>On 11/29/05, Scott Morris wrote:
>>
>>
>>>John,
>>>
>>>I'm not sure what part of my e-mail was interpreted as my putting you
>>>
>>>
>>down,
>>
>>
>>>but it more certainly wasn't intended that way. My apologies if you were
>>>somehow disrespected. And here I thought that ending with humor was a
>>>
>>>
>>good
>>
>>
>>>idea...
>>>
>>>My point was simply in agreeing with Brian about the business sense of
>>>hiring someone, or equating it to the example that I believe you gave
>>>
>>>
>>about
>>
>>
>>>the various mall employees around the holiday time.
>>>
>>>I'm missing where I came off as being egotistical or believing to be above
>>>anyone by simply expressing an opinion not inline with your own, but if
>>>that's what it is, that's what it is... If you've ever known me, read my
>>>e-mails or seen me speak, you'd know that carrying an ego is the furthest
>>>thing from who I am. Along those lines, you'll also notice that I do not
>>>post with my signature in e-mails simply to make points like that.
>>>
>>>So I'll go back and rethink my respect (or lack thereof) and keep my nose
>>>out of your conversation "offline" with Brian (that is magically getting
>>>copied to the list going all over the world).
>>>
>>>Sorry dude. *shrug*
>>>
>>>Scott
>>>
>>>
>>>_____
>>>
>>>From: John Do [mailto:mcseccnp03@yahoo.com]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 9:34 PM
>>>To: Scott Morris; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>Subject: RE: Internetworkexpert Workbook Order - OT
>>>
>>>
>>>Woooo slow down here Scott I know that you are a quad CCIE, a guru at
>>>networking, and been helping this study group out for many years. But that
>>>does not mean that you can put me down like that. I don't give a shit if
>>>
>>>
>>you
>>
>>
>>>have ten CCIE and been on this study group for year in the end you are
>>>
>>>
>>just
>>
>>
>>>a human being like me and I feel that I should be treated with respect.
>>>
>>>This conversation has been offline between me and Brian Dennis for the
>>>
>>>
>>past
>>
>>
>>>hour or so and I would appreciate if you can mind your own business. If
>>>
>>>
>>you
>>
>>
>>>wish to share your thought share it with respect.
>>>
>>>Again, this conversation from the start was intended to know if anyone
>>>
>>>
>>else
>>
>>
>>>has the same problem as me with the IE workbook upgrade. Last but not
>>>
>>>
>>least,
>>
>>
>>>Brian was mentioning about sale and business sense and all I did was
>>>
>>>
>>giving
>>
>>
>>>him some of my ideas and thought with respect.
>>>
>>>I have been on this group for a couple of years now and I had noticed
>>>
>>>
>>beside
>>
>>
>>>all the CCIE study materials, was "some" of these CCIE thinking they are
>>>
>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>shit. For a refresh in memory we are all human being and we are all equal.
>>>The CCIE certification will help you in some of your job issues but also
>>>bring some issue at the same time ;-).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Scott Morris wrote:
>>>
>>>Not to break into the festivities here... But would you really like a
>>>temporary person at-or-near minimum wage to attempt to answer your
>>>
>>>
>>questions
>>
>>
>>>about a technical product? Or keep putting you on hold (for large periods
>>>of time) while trying to find answers for you?
>>>
>>>While I don't profess to know much about Brian's business sense or
>>>
>>>
>>business
>>
>>
>>>model, I would have to agree with him that hiring someone temporarily
>>>
>>>
>>isn't
>>
>>
>>>necessarily a good idea.
>>>
>>>That doesn't mean that he can't find ways to improve things (everyone
>>>
>>>
>>can),
>>
>>
>>>but IMHO that wouldn't be it. And this forum wouldn't be the place to air
>>>that laundry anyway.
>>>
>>>Would you like some fries with that? Or a picture with Santa? Or perhaps a
>>>free sample of perfume? (akin to the temporary help in some mall shops)
>>>
>>>Personally, I'm looking to hire those guys from Capital One. I think
>>>they'll make a much more exciting marketing statement. ;)
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>>
>>>
>>John
>>
>>
>>>Do
>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:37 PM
>>>To: Brian Dennis; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>Subject: RE: Internetworkexpert Workbook Order - OT
>>>
>>>Brian,
>>>
>>>Are you saying that the entire mall in the United State does not make any
>>>business sense because they hire more sale people just for the holiday
>>>season? The choice to hire are not is not my concern. Instead that is your
>>>concern because that is your company. From the start I was just curious if
>>>anyone else is having the same problem as I am. Also, since you had
>>>mentioned about "Sale" I was just giving you my 2 cents from a customer
>>>point of view. Last but not least, now you have mention about "business
>>>sense" so I'm just giving you my thought about it. Simple as that and
>>>
>>>
>>lets
>>
>>
>>>leave it like that...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Brian Dennis wrote: v\:*
>>>{behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:*
>>>{behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
>>>st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } John,
>>>Like I said we arent going to hire someone just for the few
>>>days after the workbook is released. If you left a voice mail it will be
>>>followed up on. I dont see a voice mail in the sales log from anyone
>>>
>>>
>>named
>>
>>
>>>John.
>>>
>>>Lastly if you want to purchase someone elses workbook because
>>>you cant reach as sales person during our busiest time then thats your
>>>choice but Im not going to hire someone just because you cant get a hold
>>>of someone during these first few days after the new workbook is released.
>>>It doesnt make business sense.
>>>
>>>
>>>Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
>>>bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>>>
>>>
>>>Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>>>http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
>>>Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>>>Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---------------------------------
>>>
>>>From: John Do [mailto:mcseccnp03@yahoo.com]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:00 PM
>>>To: Brian Dennis; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>Subject: RE: Internetworkexpert Workbook Order - OT
>>>
>>>
>>>Group & Brian,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Brian when we are talking about sale we are not talking about the value
>>>but more of a person or a human being. You can make a million out of a
>>>single product, but if the customer doesn't return due to the fact no sale
>>>person pick up the phone then that million of dollars will be gone before
>>>you will even notice. If you only make one cent out of a single product
>>>
>>>
>>but
>>
>>
>>>the customer return then that one cent will be million before you will
>>>
>>>
>>even
>>
>>
>>>notice. That is just my 2 cents and I will give you a call tomorrow ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Brian Dennis wrote:
>>>John,
>>>So we should hire another sales person just because we are swamped for the
>>>first few days after the release of the new workbook? Ok we'll do that
>>>
>>>
>>just
>>
>>
>>>for you but now your workbook is going to cost $80,495. That's $80,000 to
>>>cover the cost of the new sales person and $495 for the workbook ;-) So
>>>
>>>
>>it's
>>
>>
>>>probably better to just call me directly so that we don't have to tack on
>>>the $80,000 to your workbook ;-) But if you want the new sales person
>>>
>>>
>>option
>>
>>
>>>let me know and I'll even throw in free shipping.
>>>
>>>HTH,
>>>
>>>Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
>>>bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>>>
>>>Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>>>http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
>>>Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>>>Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>>>
>>>________________________________________
>>>From: John Do [mailto:mcseccnp03@yahoo.com]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 3:10 PM
>>>To: Brian Dennis; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>Subject: RE: Internetworkexpert Workbook Order
>>>
>>>Group & Brian,
>>>
>>>Thank you to everyone that took the time and patience to send out they
>>>thoughts. I guess there is not much that I can do but keep sending email
>>>
>>>
>>and
>>
>>
>>>try to call them back. Last but not least, Brian you " should " spend some
>>>money and hire some sale rep so that the service would be the same as the
>>>workbook ;-).
>>>
>>>
>>>Brian Dennis wrote:
>>>John,
>>>Sorry if you are experiencing any delays but our sales team is totally
>>>swamped to say the least. Today alone they received over 200 sales e-mails
>>>and at least 60 phone calls. That's not even taking into account the
>>>literally hundreds of upgrade orders that they have been processing since
>>>the new workbook was released late last week.
>>>
>>>If you have a specific questions feel free to call me directly at
>>>+1.775.745.6404. I'm sure that I "should" be able to answer any questions
>>>you have ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
>>>bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>>>
>>>Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>>>http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
>>>Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>>>Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>>
>>>
>>John
>>
>>
>>>Do
>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:35 AM
>>>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>Subject: Internetworkexpert Workbook Order
>>>
>>>Hello Group,
>>>
>>>Does anyone else having the same problem as I am? When ever I try to
>>>
>>>
>>contact
>>
>>
>>>internetworkexpert no one ever pick up the phone. I have been trying to
>>>contact them since beginning of last week till now. It seems that they do
>>>not have any sale rep and also no operator person to talk to. I'm kind of
>>>confused and I would like to know if anyone else is having this same
>>>problem. Last but not least, I had also tried to send them emails but
>>>
>>>
>>still
>>
>>
>>>no luck. They workbook is great but what is the use and advantage if you
>>>
>>>
>>can
>>
>>
>>>not get a hold of them.
>>>
>>>
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