From: Cisco Nuts (cisconuts@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Nov 29 2005 - 23:51:56 GMT-3
PEACE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bro!!
PEACE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take it easy....now!!
Relax !!
I am sure that having been part of this forum, you know better than to
bash a member, particulary that member being Scott !!
PEACE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: John Do <mcseccnp03@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: John Do <mcseccnp03@yahoo.com>
To: Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com>, ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Internetworkexpert Workbook Order - OT
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:34:26 -0800 (PST)
> Woooo slow down here Scott I know that you are a quad CCIE, a
guru at networking, and been helping this study group out for many
years. But that does not mean that you can put me down like that. I
dont give a shit if you have ten CCIE and been on this study group
for year in the end you are just a human being like me and I feel
that I should be treated with respect.
>
> This conversation has been offline between me and Brian Dennis
for the past hour or so and I would appreciate if you can mind your
own business. If you wish to share your thought share it with
respect.
>
> Again, this conversation from the start was intended to know if
anyone else has the same problem as me with the IE workbook upgrade.
Last but not least, Brian was mentioning about sale and business
sense and all I did was giving him some of my ideas and thought with
respect.
>
> I have been on this group for a couple of years now and I had
noticed beside all the CCIE study materials, was some of these CCIE
thinking they are the shit. For a refresh in memory we are all human
being and we are all equal. The CCIE certification will help you in
some of your job issues but also bring some issue at the same time
;-).
>
>
>
>Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote: Not to break into the
festivities here... But would you really like a
>temporary person at-or-near minimum wage to attempt to answer your
questions
>about a technical product? Or keep putting you on hold (for large
periods
>of time) while trying to find answers for you?
>
>While I don't profess to know much about Brian's business sense or
business
>model, I would have to agree with him that hiring someone
temporarily isn't
>necessarily a good idea.
>
>That doesn't mean that he can't find ways to improve things
(everyone can),
>but IMHO that wouldn't be it. And this forum wouldn't be the place
to air
>that laundry anyway.
>
>Would you like some fries with that? Or a picture with Santa? Or
perhaps a
>free sample of perfume? (akin to the temporary help in some mall
shops)
>
>Personally, I'm looking to hire those guys from Capital One. I think
>they'll make a much more exciting marketing statement. ;)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of John
>Do
>Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:37 PM
>To: Brian Dennis; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: Internetworkexpert Workbook Order - OT
>
>Brian,
>
>Are you saying that the entire mall in the United State does not
make any
>business sense because they hire more sale people just for the
holiday
>season? The choice to hire are not is not my concern. Instead that
is your
>concern because that is your company. From the start I was just
curious if
>anyone else is having the same problem as I am. Also, since you had
>mentioned about "Sale" I was just giving you my 2 cents from a
customer
>point of view. Last but not least, now you have mention about
"business
>sense" so I'm just giving you my thought about it. Simple as that
and lets
>leave it like that...
>
>
>
>
>Brian Dennis wrote: v\:*
>{behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:*
>{behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
>st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } John,
>Like I said we arent going to hire someone just for the few
>days after the workbook is released. If you left a voice mail it
will be
>followed up on. I dont see a voice mail in the sales log from
anyone named
>John.
>
>Lastly if you want to purchase someone elses workbook because
>you cant reach as sales person during our busiest time then thats
your
>choice but Im not going to hire someone just because you cant get
a hold
>of someone during these first few days after the new workbook is
released.
>It doesnt make business sense.
>
>
>Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
>bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>
>
>Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
>Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>From: John Do [mailto:mcseccnp03@yahoo.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:00 PM
>To: Brian Dennis; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: Internetworkexpert Workbook Order - OT
>
>
>Group & Brian,
>
>
>
>Brian when we are talking about sale we are not talking about the
value
>but more of a person or a human being. You can make a million out of
a
>single product, but if the customer doesn't return due to the fact
no sale
>person pick up the phone then that million of dollars will be gone
before
>you will even notice. If you only make one cent out of a single
product but
>the customer return then that one cent will be million before you
will even
>notice. That is just my 2 cents and I will give you a call tomorrow
;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Brian Dennis wrote:
>John,
>So we should hire another sales person just because we are swamped
for the
>first few days after the release of the new workbook? Ok we'll do
that just
>for you but now your workbook is going to cost $80,495. That's
$80,000 to
>cover the cost of the new sales person and $495 for the workbook ;-)
So it's
>probably better to just call me directly so that we don't have to
tack on
>the $80,000 to your workbook ;-) But if you want the new sales
person option
>let me know and I'll even throw in free shipping.
>
>HTH,
>
>Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
>bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>
>Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
>Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>
>________________________________________
>From: John Do [mailto:mcseccnp03@yahoo.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 3:10 PM
>To: Brian Dennis; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: Internetworkexpert Workbook Order
>
>Group & Brian,
>
>Thank you to everyone that took the time and patience to send out
they
>thoughts. I guess there is not much that I can do but keep sending
email and
>try to call them back. Last but not least, Brian you " should "
spend some
>money and hire some sale rep so that the service would be the same
as the
>workbook ;-).
>
>
>Brian Dennis wrote:
>John,
>Sorry if you are experiencing any delays but our sales team is
totally
>swamped to say the least. Today alone they received over 200 sales
e-mails
>and at least 60 phone calls. That's not even taking into account the
>literally hundreds of upgrade orders that they have been processing
since
>the new workbook was released late last week.
>
>If you have a specific questions feel free to call me directly at
>+1.775.745.6404. I'm sure that I "should" be able to answer any
questions
>you have ;-)
>
>
>Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
>bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>
>Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
>Toll Free: 877-224-8987
>Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of John
>Do
>Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:35 AM
>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: Internetworkexpert Workbook Order
>
>Hello Group,
>
>Does anyone else having the same problem as I am? When ever I try to
contact
>internetworkexpert no one ever pick up the phone. I have been trying
to
>contact them since beginning of last week till now. It seems that
they do
>not have any sale rep and also no operator person to talk to. I'm
kind of
>confused and I would like to know if anyone else is having this same
>problem. Last but not least, I had also tried to send them emails
but still
>no luck. They workbook is great but what is the use and advantage if
you can
>not get a hold of them.
>
>
>
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