From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Thu Nov 10 2005 - 16:00:15 GMT-3
Sounds like this would be an excellent time to play the lottery! ;)
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Leigh Harrison
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 1:48 PM
To: Brian
Cc: Dennis J. Hartmann; 'Guyler, Rik'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: KIDS
Couldn't agree more chaps.
We're in the process of ivf. We had our pregnancy test last Thursday and it
was a positive. We had that in he morning and sat in a waiting room waiting
for the result. After that stress, sitting in the lab on Monday didn't even
come close.
I swear, I have the biggest smile on my face. Last week in October I turned
25, the week after we find out the girlfriend is pregnant, the week after I
pass my CCIE, the week after, I'm getting spare time again. Life is sweet
!!
Brian wrote:
> Good point Dennis,
>
> It gets very easy to lose perspective and usually to regain it it
> takes a drastic or catastrophic event. Life is so quick and while it
> is good to have goals, faimily is always priority especially your
> kids. One day you wake up and they are going off to college or
> getting married. Each moment with them counts more than anything,
> cause none of us are promised tomorrow. And when I get ready to take
> that trip, the last thing I will be concerned with is my CCIE status.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis J. Hartmann"
> <dhartma5@optonline.net>
> To: "'Guyler, Rik'" <rguyler@shp-dayton.org>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:46 PM
> Subject: KIDS
>
>
>> I have a 10 month old baby (Johnny) and boy who's almost 4 years old
>> (Dennis). I feel your pain, but I'd give up a CCIE for time with
>> them ANY DAY!!!! Prioritize your life and live by those priorities.
>> Your kids don't give a RATS ASS about your certifications! If it
>> takes me 8 attempts and I don't have to slight my family.... SO BE
>> IT! :-)
>>
>> There's more important things than this CCIE medal of honor.
>>
>> That which does not kill me only makes me stronger -Nietzsche
>>
>> I'm feeling philosophical tonight....
>>
>> -Dennis Hartmann
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of Guyler, Rik
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:31 AM
>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: It is possible!
>>
>> They do become more self-entertained the older they get but they also
>> get much more expensive! Ohh...I also don't have to worry about my
>> 2-yr old smoking, drinking, skipping school or anything else (he
>> doesn't do these things yet) I would frown upon. The worst thing she
>> does is make a mess on the floor with her toys or jump on the couch.
>> ;-)
>>
>> The trick is to bribe (intimidate) the 15-yr old to help take care of
>> the 2-yr old. Now THAT'S a challenge!
>>
>> Rik
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm@emanon.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:16 AM
>> To: 'Guyler, Rik'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: It is possible!
>>
>> With mine, it's more of the constant need to be held, changed, fed or
>> some other variety of "direct connection". :) When they get older
>> I'm sure they'll be at least a LITTLE self-entertaining. But I have
>> a hard time putting off studying for several years till that happens.
>> So for now, it's just waiting until after 9pm.
>>
>> But yup, it's a challenge! 15 and 2? There's an interesting
>> combination!
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of Guyler, Rik
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:41 AM
>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: It is possible!
>>
>> Yeah...me too. Scott Morris can attest to this as well, eh Scott?
>> ;-)
>>
>> It's tough to study for the lab when your little one is climbing up
>> your leg to get a chance to bang on the keyboard with you...or the
>> teenager wants to play a game of Battlefield2 with you. I have a
>> 15-yr old and a 2-yr
>> old...somebody help me! ;-)
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: Michael Brooks [mailto:michaeljbrooks@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:45 PM
>> To: Guyler, Rik
>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: It is possible!
>>
>>
>> Congrats !
>>
>> I am trying to do both (parent & lab) at the same time. Now thats a
>> challenge.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On 11/8/05, Guyler, Rik <rguyler@shp-dayton.org
>> <mailto:rguyler@shp-dayton.org> > wrote:
>>
>> You thought the lab was hard...wait till you have to be a parent!
>> ;-)
>>
>> Congratulations!
>>
>> Rik
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Edwards, Andrew M [mailto:andrew.m.edwards@boeing.com
>> <mailto:andrew.m.edwards@boeing.com> ]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 1:13 PM
>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> Subject: It is possible!
>>
>> All I can say is...
>>
>> God answered my prayers. I passed in SJ yesterday.
>>
>> Yes, there is more to it than that, but I must give credit where
>> credit is due. A good combination of experience, effort, knowledge
>> and most importantly prayer go a long way towards having clarity and
>> success during the exam.
>>
>>
>> Now, for those of you new to GS I would like to share my story. One
>> day I realized it was time to prove to myself I could pass the CCIE
>> R&S exam.
>> After passing the written on my second attempt I too started to study
>> for the lab. I quickly found myself without any colleagues to
>> discuss these crazy issues with at any level of depth required for
>> the CCIE lab.
>> So, I
>> got on GS and realized how deep things really would go.
>> Honestly, my first impression was that these GS people were crazy for
>> arguing about Tc shaping intervals and how many bits burst in excess;
>> absolute timers versus idle timers for lock n key, and all that other
>> nitty gritty nerd knob stuff. Initially I thought people on GS that
>> talked about these things in such detail really needed a life.
>>
>> Little did I know that I would soon be joining them...
>>
>> And so the story goes, I started to post on GS and discover exactly
>> what I didn't know; or at least what I thought I knew was wrong. And
>> slowly, over time, the facts got straight as did my technical
>> experience and exposure. I
>>
>> too started grinding over Tc intervals, burst patterns, NBAR protocol
>> matching, timer adjustments, etc. And then, one day I realized I was
>> one of those people who needed a life. 8)
>>
>> Strangely, over the past 2 years, this list has become my second
>> family full
>>
>> of personalities and people I really look forward to meeting. Its
>> what I imagine a fraternity would have been like had I joined one.
>> And, oddly enough, I feel like I just got through with a self
>> inflicted hazing that I'll never forget.
>>
>> So now, after having spend the better part of 2.5 years and 5 lab
>> attempts I have proven to myself the following:
>>
>> 1. The CCIE R&S exam is passable
>> 2. Knowledge is required, but sometimes its not enough during the exam.
>> This is where determination comes in (e.g. try and try again).
>> 3. And probably most important: Do ONLY what you are asked to do
>> and make sure things work EXACTLY the way you are asked.
>>
>> And in closing, I want to thank the Scotts & Brians for pulling away
>> my knowledge blanket and really getting me to learn something. And
>> Tim (ccie2be = cciewhois). I remember last year Tim and I would futs
>> over
>> IPv6 and why most V6 tunnels don't run IGPs and other stuff as we
>> freaked out about this addition to the lab - oh those unfounded
>> fears!
>> And Chris Lewis for helping de-mystify QOS. Excellent stuff coming
>> from Chris on the QoS front people! Not necessarily new material,
>> but sometimes hearing it the 8th time a different way makes things
>> sink in...
>>
>> I would also like to thank the proctors Tom and Tuong in SJ. Thanks
>> for your guidance and patience for people like me who make this exam
>> much harder
>>
>> than it was probably meant to be. And, Tom, I do hope I see you
>> again but this time I'll guy you lunch - no voucher required. 8)
>>
>> And finally, the guys I really want to thank are Marvin, Brad, and
>> Bill Lejewski at www.ccbootcamp.com <http://www.ccbootcamp.com> .
>> Yes, Bill (shows how dated I am).
>> These guys have really watched me struggle. They knew I had
>> knowledge, but just failed to convert during the actual exam. They
>> were always there to help with anything I needed and they never gave
>> up on me.
>> Thanks guys. And now I'll take that beer Brad!
>>
>> So, I'm sure you will all agree, its time to get reacquainted with my
>> estranged friends, family, and ever patient wife. She's 6 months
>> pregnant and I've got a lot of painting and baby-proofing to do. 8)
>>
>> Thanks again GS! I hope to see you guys soon!
>>
>> Andy Edwards
>> CCIE #15334
>>
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