From: Leigh Harrison (ccileigh@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Nov 10 2005 - 15:49:12 GMT-3
Oh - and it's looking like twins !!
Leigh Harrison wrote:
> Couldn't agree more chaps.
>
> We're in the process of ivf.  We had our pregnancy test last Thursday 
> and it was a positive.  We had that in he morning and sat in a waiting 
> room waiting for the result.  After that stress, sitting in the lab on 
> Monday didn't even come close.
>
> I swear, I have the biggest smile on my face.  Last week in October I 
> turned 25, the week after we find out the girlfriend is pregnant, the 
> week after I pass my CCIE, the week after, I'm getting spare time 
> again.  Life is sweet !!
>
>
> Brian wrote:
>
>> Good point Dennis,
>>
>> It gets very easy to lose perspective and usually to regain it it 
>> takes a drastic or catastrophic event.  Life is so quick and while it 
>> is good to have goals, faimily is always priority especially your 
>> kids.  One day you wake up and they are going off to college or 
>> getting married.  Each moment with them counts more than anything, 
>> cause none of us are promised tomorrow. And when I get ready to take 
>> that trip, the last thing I will be concerned with is my CCIE status.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis J. Hartmann" 
>> <dhartma5@optonline.net>
>> To: "'Guyler, Rik'" <rguyler@shp-dayton.org>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:46 PM
>> Subject: KIDS
>>
>>
>>> I have a 10 month old baby (Johnny) and boy who's almost 4 years old
>>> (Dennis).  I feel your pain, but I'd give up a CCIE for time with 
>>> them ANY
>>> DAY!!!!  Prioritize your life and live by those priorities.  Your 
>>> kids don't
>>> give a RATS ASS about your certifications!  If it takes me 8 
>>> attempts and I
>>> don't have to slight my family.... SO BE IT!  :-)
>>>
>>> There's more important things than this CCIE medal of honor.
>>>
>>> That which does not kill me only makes me stronger -Nietzsche
>>>
>>> I'm feeling philosophical tonight....
>>>
>>> -Dennis Hartmann
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Guyler, Rik
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:31 AM
>>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: RE: It is possible!
>>>
>>> They do become more self-entertained the older they get but they 
>>> also get
>>> much more expensive!  Ohh...I also don't have to worry about my 2-yr 
>>> old
>>> smoking, drinking, skipping school or anything else (he doesn't do 
>>> these
>>> things yet) I would frown upon.  The worst thing she does is make a 
>>> mess on
>>> the floor with her toys or jump on the couch.  ;-)
>>>
>>> The trick is to bribe (intimidate) the 15-yr old to help take care 
>>> of the
>>> 2-yr old.  Now THAT'S a challenge!
>>>
>>> Rik
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm@emanon.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:16 AM
>>> To: 'Guyler, Rik'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: RE: It is possible!
>>>
>>> With mine, it's more of the constant need to be held, changed, fed 
>>> or some
>>> other variety of "direct connection".  :)  When they get older I'm sure
>>> they'll be at least a LITTLE self-entertaining.  But I have a hard time
>>> putting off studying for several years till that happens.  So for 
>>> now, it's
>>> just waiting until after 9pm.
>>>
>>> But yup, it's a challenge!   15 and 2?  There's an interesting 
>>> combination!
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Guyler, Rik
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:41 AM
>>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: RE: It is possible!
>>>
>>> Yeah...me too.  Scott Morris can attest to this as well, eh Scott?  ;-)
>>>
>>> It's tough to study for the lab when your little one is climbing up 
>>> your leg
>>> to get a chance to bang on the keyboard with you...or the teenager 
>>> wants to
>>> play a game of Battlefield2 with you.  I have a 15-yr old and a 2-yr
>>> old...somebody help me!   ;-)
>>>
>>>  _____
>>>
>>> From: Michael Brooks [mailto:michaeljbrooks@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:45 PM
>>> To: Guyler, Rik
>>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: Re: It is possible!
>>>
>>>
>>> Congrats !
>>>
>>> I am trying to do both (parent & lab) at the same time. Now thats a
>>> challenge.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On 11/8/05, Guyler, Rik <rguyler@shp-dayton.org
>>> <mailto:rguyler@shp-dayton.org> > wrote:
>>>
>>> You thought the lab was hard...wait till you have to be a parent!  ;-)
>>>
>>> Congratulations!
>>>
>>> Rik
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Edwards, Andrew M [mailto:andrew.m.edwards@boeing.com
>>> <mailto:andrew.m.edwards@boeing.com> ]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 1:13 PM
>>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>> Subject: It is possible!
>>>
>>> All I can say is...
>>>
>>> God answered my prayers.  I passed in SJ yesterday.
>>>
>>> Yes, there is more to it than that, but I must give credit where 
>>> credit is
>>> due.  A good combination of experience, effort, knowledge and most
>>> importantly prayer go a long way towards having clarity and success 
>>> during
>>> the exam.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now, for those of you new to GS I would like to share my story.  One 
>>> day I
>>> realized it was time to prove to myself I could pass the CCIE R&S exam.
>>> After passing the written on my second attempt I too started to 
>>> study for
>>> the lab.  I quickly found myself without any colleagues to discuss 
>>> these
>>> crazy issues with at any level of depth required for the CCIE lab.  
>>> So, I
>>> got on GS and realized how deep things really would go.
>>> Honestly, my first impression was that these GS people were crazy for
>>> arguing about Tc shaping intervals and how many bits burst in excess;
>>> absolute timers versus idle timers for lock n key, and all that 
>>> other nitty
>>> gritty nerd knob stuff.  Initially I thought people on GS that 
>>> talked about
>>> these things in such detail really needed a life.
>>>
>>> Little did I know that I would soon be joining them...
>>>
>>> And so the story goes, I started to post on GS and discover exactly 
>>> what I
>>> didn't know; or at least what I thought I knew was wrong.  And 
>>> slowly, over
>>> time, the facts got straight as did my technical experience and 
>>> exposure. I
>>>
>>> too started grinding over Tc intervals, burst patterns, NBAR protocol
>>> matching, timer adjustments, etc.  And then, one day I realized I 
>>> was one of
>>> those people who needed a life.  8)
>>>
>>> Strangely, over the past 2 years, this list has become my second 
>>> family full
>>>
>>> of personalities and people I really look forward to meeting.  Its 
>>> what I
>>> imagine a fraternity would have been like had I joined one.  And, oddly
>>> enough, I feel like I just got through with a self inflicted hazing 
>>> that
>>> I'll never forget.
>>>
>>> So now, after having spend the better part of 2.5 years and 5 lab 
>>> attempts I
>>> have proven to myself the following:
>>>
>>> 1.  The CCIE R&S exam is passable
>>> 2.  Knowledge is required, but sometimes its not enough during the 
>>> exam.
>>> This is where determination comes in (e.g. try and try again).
>>> 3.  And probably most important:  Do ONLY what you are asked to do 
>>> and make
>>> sure things work EXACTLY the way you are asked.
>>>
>>> And in closing, I want to thank the Scotts & Brians for pulling away my
>>> knowledge blanket and really getting me to learn something.  And Tim
>>> (ccie2be = cciewhois).  I remember last year Tim and I would futs over
>>> IPv6 and why most V6 tunnels don't run IGPs and other stuff as we 
>>> freaked
>>> out about this addition to the lab - oh those unfounded fears!
>>> And Chris Lewis for helping de-mystify QOS.  Excellent stuff coming 
>>> from
>>> Chris on the QoS front people!  Not necessarily new material, but 
>>> sometimes
>>> hearing it the 8th time a different way makes things sink in...
>>>
>>> I would also like to thank the proctors Tom and Tuong in SJ.  Thanks 
>>> for
>>> your guidance and patience for people like me who make this exam 
>>> much harder
>>>
>>> than it was probably meant to be.  And, Tom, I do hope I see you 
>>> again but
>>> this time I'll guy you lunch - no voucher required.  8)
>>>
>>> And finally, the guys I really want to thank are Marvin, Brad, and Bill
>>> Lejewski at www.ccbootcamp.com <http://www.ccbootcamp.com> .  Yes, Bill
>>> (shows how dated I am).
>>> These guys have really watched me struggle.  They knew I had 
>>> knowledge, but
>>> just failed to convert during the actual exam.  They were always 
>>> there to
>>> help with anything I needed and they never gave up on me.
>>> Thanks guys.  And now I'll take that beer Brad!
>>>
>>> So, I'm sure you will all agree, its time to get reacquainted with my
>>> estranged friends, family, and ever patient wife.  She's 6 months 
>>> pregnant
>>> and I've got a lot of painting and baby-proofing to do.  8)
>>>
>>> Thanks again GS!  I hope to see you guys soon!
>>>
>>> Andy Edwards
>>> CCIE #15334
>>>
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