From: Curtis Phillips (cphillips@suscom.net)
Date: Thu Oct 13 2005 - 21:33:18 GMT-3
I wouldn't exactly call the cover and the credentials
claimed on it as fluff as it probably influences a
potential buyer's decision making process. On the other
hand, Doyle is so widely known and respected, who actually
cares whether he is still hopping through CCIE recert
hoops?
Is the book actually available yet?
Doug, you hit it right on the head. I used to teach MS
classes years ago
and never did I learn so much about the content then
when
I was teaching it.
You have to learn at a much higher level to do right by
your students.
Rik
-----Original Message-----
From: dszarmach [mailto:dszarmach@comhs.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:28 PM
To: cisco@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: RE : 2nd EDITION Routing TCP/IP Vol I
Coming
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Priscilla - How did you get started as a writer? Is it
profitable?
Enjoyable? Or is the time and involvement not really
worth the pay off?
I'm sure you also extend your own knowledge when you
write about a
topic.....I think I read a statistic that the best way
to
remember something
is to teach it to someone else.
-
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:13 PM
To: cisco@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: RE : 2nd EDITION Routing TCP/IP Vol I
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nrf wrote:
>
> ""John Neiberger"" wrote in
> message
> news:200510121624.j9CGOAMF012967@groupstudy.com...
> >I wonder how he feels writing for Cisco Press
>considering that
> he's been
> > working at Juniper for years. :)
>
> Not only that, but I see that the book lists Doyle as a
>CCIE.
> I thought he
> had let his CCIE status expire years ago, ever since he
>joined the big
> 'J'.
> I also thought that the rule from Cisco was that if you
>let your
> status expire, you can't go around calling yourself a
>CCIE anymore.
>
> But then again, it wouldn't be the first time that an
>organization
> concluded that it's allowed to break its own rules
>whenever it feels
> like it.
What organization are you referring to?
Cisco Press is owned by Pearson Education, a huge but
little known
publishing conglomerate who also owns Addison Wesley,
Prentice Hall, New
Riders, Peachpit, Que, SAMS and a bunch of other
imprints.
Cisco influences the Cisco Press department of Pearson
Education, but
Pearson sets the rules. I'm sure they would be unhappy
with one of their
authors claiming a certification that they don't have.
It
could be a copy
and paste error, left over from the 1st edition, if it's
really not
accurate. The publisher, not the author, does the book
cover copy and some
of the other fluff.
>
> Furthermore, there is some delicious irony in Cisco
>allowing a Juniper
> employee to claim CCIE status that (if the above is
>correct) he,
> technically speaking, does not have. There is also heavy
>irony in the
> notion that Cisco is hiring a Juniper employee to write
>Cisco training
> materials.
Authors write for themselves. They aren't hired. Maybe
you're thinking of
tech writers who are employees of a company? Cisco Press
authors certainly
aren't hired by Cisco. That's wayyyy offbase. Pearson
Education pays the
royalty checks.
Priscilla
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