Re: DOT1Q NATIVE VLAN STANDARD or NON-STANDARD

From: James Ventre (messageboard@ventrefamily.com)
Date: Wed Oct 12 2005 - 15:02:47 GMT-3


Just set it up to tag all (don't use the physical interface - only use
sub interfaces)

interface FastEthernet0/0
 no ip address
 duplex auto
 speed auto
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.1
 encapsulation dot1Q 2
 ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 no snmp trap link-status
!
interface FastEthernet0/0.2
 encapsulation dot1Q 4
 ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.0
 no snmp trap link-status
!

James

De Witt, Duane wrote:

You’re right, but it’s a good place to start. With regard to
this, I haven’t seen a similar configuration on routers, so if you
were running router on a stick the router would be sending untagged
native vlan packets to a switch that is tagging all vlans. How does this
work?

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From: James Ventre [mailto:messageboard@ventrefamily.com]
Sent: 12 October 2005 07:51 PM
To: De Witt, Duane
Cc: Ed Lui; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: DOT1Q NATIVE VLAN STANDARD or NON-STANDARD

>Bottom line is that there is always a native VLAN in Dot1Q

Always is a pretty strong word:

IOS_4507R(config)#vlan dot1q tag native ?
<cr>

CatOS_6500(enable) set dot1q-all-tagged enable ?
<cr>

James

De Witt, Duane wrote:

The basics here are that Dot1Q has a native VLAN which is a VLAN that

doesn't have a VLAN tag. ISL doesn't have this since all VLAN's are

tagged.

If you don't define a native VLAN it defaults to VLAN 1. The default can

be changed to make any VLAN native which simply means it will not carry

a VLAN tag in the header. Bottom line is that there is always a native

VLAN in Dot1Q, whether you define it or not.

 

Does that answer your question?

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of

Ed Lui

Sent: 12 October 2005 06:03 PM

To: ccielab@groupstudy.com

Subject: DOT1Q NATIVE VLAN STANDARD or NON-STANDARD

 

Hi group,

I have no luck finding out why we need native vlan in dot1q. I

understand

that native vlan should be defined on a trunk port. I came across a

router

on a stick lab scenario, which I did not define the native vlan and it

is

still working fine. Read through the dot1q standard on

ieee.org<http://ieee.org>but still can not figure out my question.

 So, what is the difference between having a native and not having a

native

vlan defined ? The only thing I can think of is, tagged frame can carry

QoS

information. Other than that, what is the benefit or difference between

tagged and untagged frames ? Why define a native ?

 

Thanks in advance for any help or hint,

 

Ed Lui

 

 

TRUNK W/O NATIVE VLAN

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