RE : Training Workbook Solutions - Not very helpfull?

From: Richard Dumoulin (Richard.Dumoulin@vanco.fr)
Date: Sat Oct 01 2005 - 17:25:47 GMT-3


What did work for me was once I finished the well known vendor workbooks (My
preferred ones are Tom Larus, IEWB and DoitLab in this order for their wordy
solutions) I thoroughly studied the CiscoPress lab book and put special
attention to the solution provided by the author (who is also a proctor). As
Gustavo says, I wanted to learn the Cisco way of doing things and get rid
off my own way.

-- Richard

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Gustavo Novais [mailto:gustavo.novais@novabase.pt]
Envoyi : samedi 1 octobre 2005 20:04
@ : cciein2006@yahoo.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Objet : RE: Training Workbook Solutions - Not very helpfull?

Regarding your question, I'll give my personal experience.
I bought IpExpert, Workbook + Proctor Guide. It didn't have the solutions,
which allowed me to configure stuff as I thought they would be, guided by
the proctor guide, and of course forced me to dig for the answers on the
documentation (books or docCD). Then I went to the lab. I failed. I had no
surprises on the technology, Ipexpert covered it extensively. I think my
problem was that I was used to do things "my own way". When I checked after
doing a practice lab the solutions provided at their forum, many of them I
didn't agree, or they were outdated. At a point I just did not trust the
solutions anymore. The point is that, even failing, I still think Ipexpert
is a great exercise book!

Now, for my second attempt, since I (think) I learned the technology from
Ipexpert I've bought IEWB. My purpose from it is that I review all the
technology and look at their solutions+explanations, in order to get some
guidance on the wording, and the subtleties involved with a task. For
refinement...

Just for an example, I did an assessment test some time ago, and one thing I
lost points, was that I didn't configured ipv6 enable on an interface before
putting an IPv6 address. Was it really necessary? I don't think so... Would
it make you lose points on the lab? Perhaps.

My 2 cents

Gustavo

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Sent: sabado, 1 de Outubro de 2005 3:02
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Subject: Training Workbook Solutions - Not very helpfull?

I was considering purchasing one of the CCIE training workbooks, but I'm not
crazy about how solutions are presented.

From the workbooks my friends have shown me (I think one was IPEXPERT) they
either provided no solution or the solutions were in the form of router
configurations with no explanations of why certain commands were configured.

I guess figuring out why the answers are configured that way is part of the
fun/challenge, but I find it more educating for the solutions guide to
explain exactly why certain commands are configured.

Are all the training workbooks like this? If not which ones provide detailed
explanations and also is the solution guide an extra charge?

Thanks!



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