From: simon hart (simon@harttel.com)
Date: Tue Sep 13 2005 - 14:42:31 GMT-3
Gladston,
Fantastic news and very well done, you truly deserve your number. It has
been great pondering the numerous questions you have posted on Group Study.
In particular our regular banter on QOS has helped me a lot.
Thanks for the advice at the end of the email, very wise words indeed
Simon Hart
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Sent: 13 September 2005 00:17
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Subject: THANKS
I would like to thank you to participate, in some way, on the achievement
of the CCIE R&S certification.
Thanks to Groupstudy. Allow me to express how much I appreciate this
group. It is a company on this difficult journey. I might apologize to
submit so many questions, sometimes several of them just a day. I am happy
to receive answers for some of them. I thought about not mention names
because I am afraid to be unfair, so many nice people out there helping
us.
But allow me to give special thanks to Chris, from Cisco, who helped me
consistently on the last months.
Thanks to Alexei, from NetMasterClass, that answered several questions
last year, when I was using their material.
Thanks to Arun Arumuganainar, Sean C, Simon Hart, San, Tim, Balaji, Bob
Sinclair, Brian's from IE, Scott Morris, Marvin from CCBootCamp, Arun
Baskaradoss, Ed Lui, Andrew Edwards, Kumara, Larry Letterman, Lee Carter,
Lee Donald, Mani Poopal, Thomwin Chen, Tony Schaffran, John Matijevic,
Carlos Mendioroz, among so many other.
Thanks to my wife, who was on my side during the three years on this
effort and did not give up me, even when she had to give away free movies
tickets, because after 10 hours in front of the computer I could not stay
in front of anything else that required my eyes. I can not express in
words how much you have helped me.
Thanks to my soon who understood my dedication to this goal, and helped me
to relax on the weekends (the ones I was not studying).
Thanks to my sister, to teach me visualization and meditation techniques,
and offering financial support when I was worried about how much I would
still expend this year. Thanks to Jorge, the brother in law, for the funny
moments.
Thanks to doctor Lie, doctor Amelia and doctor Lino. You were angels
helping me keep the health.
Thanks to my last manager Esper for trusting me. It was an honor to work
with you. I really appreciate your organization, education and capacity of
analysis. Thanks.
Thanks to my provisory manager, Antonio Wilson. I worked with you just a
few months and you bring me encouraging words that helped me keep strong
on the path.
Thanks to my new manager, Regina. For you patience and trust and help me
to mix the daily works with the lab time.
Thanks to the managers responsible for the certification on my company for
the trust and financial help.
Thanks a lot to Wilson Medio, that always let me use the company lab.
Thanks to Anderson, from Nec, for sharing your organized way to see the
technology.
Many thanks Leornardo for sharing your logical view of the CCIE process
and words of inspiration. One day working with you was enough to help me
stay calm (as possible) asking the LORD for serenity on the day of the
lab.
Thanks to Wilson, a CCIE that I spend just few days but helped me to keep
in mind the importance of the Strategy. On his words: ?the feeling that
the exam is not fair is because we study so much and do not get it; the
cause is that no matter how much you study, the exam is also strategy?.
Thanks to Jay, from Expert-labs, which have a wonderful rack rental
service.
Also thanks to Ccie-rack, which I used.
Thanks Marco, for the opportunity to be the instructor of the
Troubleshooting course, which helped me with the expenses of the CCIE
Bootcamp.
Josi, thanks to took me as a CCNA instructor back into 2000 year, for the
CCNP course and to trust my work.
Thanks Reginaldo, for your words when you thought I had passed.
Thanks to Maurilio. I have wanted to have you as a Proctor for a while.
Elaine, thanks to be friendly all the times the candidates seat there.
Thanks Mr Bruce Caslow, to phone me last year and spend more than one hour
with advices. I really appreciated that. Also thanks to the lovely Indy
Teller.
Thanks Mr Santana, for your weekly kindly words that bring us serenity and
faith.
Vernon, thanks for the words. Keep on it. You are getting it.
Dianna and Ed, a lovely couple, thanks to receive me at your adorable
house on the weekend after the Bootcamp in NY, allowing me to forget the
CCIE preparation for a while.
THANKS TO LORD CHRIST. Please help me to keep on your path and serve your
cause.
As it is common on Groupstudy, let me do what I have requested several
times to the candidates that passed: advices.
Just remembering, it works a different way for each person, being the
process itself a self discovering work.
If you are starting the process, please do not take these words. Remember
the history of the guy that did a job because did not know that it was
difficult.
With that in mind, I would recommend:
-Stay on the PRESENT: Study to learn, instead of studying to pass. Because
it helps to get small pleasures on the process of learning itself, instead
of just get frustration of failing.
-Study using the devices and IOS current used the lab. Do not spend your
time using older IOS versions or routers. Beside as much as I used and
appreciate the 2500 series, forget them (well, they are still good for
backbone routers). Renting a lab when your own lab is not up-to-date is a
great deal.
-Have almost all the books recommended by Cisco. This is my list:
Doyle I and II
Solie I and II
QoS by Wendell
QoS by Vegesna
Frame Relay by Chin
Security by Deal
Catalyst QoS by Flannagan
Switching by Barnes
Switching by Clark
Multicast by Williamson
BGP by Halabi
IPv6 by Desmeules
CCIE Labs by Maurilio
Troubleshooting, by Shamim
OSPF, by Parkhurst
Cisco Cookbook
-You should be familiar even with the bugs, which can occur during the
lab. I am not breaking the NDA saying that it happened three times with
me: the last time it took me just few minutes to recognize it, tell the
Proctor and reload the router; on the first time I did not identify it at
all; the second time it took me around 30 minutes. What I want to say is:
practice enough to be used with the bugs of the IOS version used on the
lab, so if you run into some of them, they are just one more detail,
instead of surprising you.
-Saying it again, strategy is a key point. And what is strategy? Basically
it is to recognize that the question will take you 30 minutes that you do
not have, so use the time to recheck other work.
-CHECK the results. This is a key point. Learn during your training how to
check the results of every feature.
-Make your all scenarios. Add features to them, make them big, but similar
to the structure you have on your real lab. Treat it as a network that
must be stable and reliable. That means that when you return to it one
week later, after pasting the saved configuration the connectivity and
services like HSRP, IRDP, Security features, QoS features, NTP and so on
should be working like a clock.
-WorkBooks: they are all great.
--I heavily used NetMasterClass last year. But as you have heard, it
is a lot more complicate that the lab. I would say that it is necessary to
make the labs twice;
--InternetworkExpert: I studied some lab with a workmate. They have a
consistent material
--IPExpert: good, but I can not say much; although I bought it I did
not do the labs.
-Bootcamps: if I had the money and time, I would do them all:
CyscoExperts, InternetworkExpert, NetMasterClass and IPExpert
-To help keep motivated, remember that we study technology instead of just
a specific company product, which is useful to understand many products on
the market.
-Forget about the number of attempts. This test has nothing to do with our
previous experience. It was funny when a workmate said: ?I was so
frustrated; I never failed an exam on my life??. It was funny because I
felt the same way. Remember that the structure is very different from a
regular exam. There is practically no feedback pointing what went wrong,
the exam is extremely expensive, which makes the pressure go to the sky,
there is not a second day to review what just come as a solution to our
mind. Considering that, no number of attempts would be big, if you are
still learning. I am trying to be honest here, and in fact repeating what
one guy told me using different words, about a year ago, and now I can
understand better what he said. The guy was Flannagan (author of Catalyst
QoS). Thanks.
-As we stay so many time involved with this goal, is takes a level of
importance on our life that may not help. Keep in mind that this is just
one of many goals on our life (past and future), and there are lot of more
important things that you already have, as your family, your health, you
spirituality, your capacity to choose and do infinity options.
-Balance the lab practice and theory. Do not study without a lab and do
not lab without available books and access to the Doc CD. They complement
each other.
-Do not go for the lab just to test it. You surely will fail. (Oh, that is
not valid if you are submitted to the technologies present on the lab on a
regular basis, which improve the chances of passing it first way, and
there is no other way to discover it besides going for the lab). First do
many labs testing the IOS and platform present on the lab. I would say the
number 400 hours is a good one.
-After testing ways to study to accomplish it, you will find your way.
-Soft Yoga, Tai-Chi-Chuan and Meditation are wonderful tools to keep the
health and low stress.
-Doing the lab can be similar to a driver who takes a new path. He can
easily loose the faster road and take more time than he thought it would
be necessary to arrive on the destination. On the day of the lab, after
your meditation, pray asking for serenity and protection, so you can make
the right decisions. Don?t pray to answer correctly what you have not
studied :)
Do not use the words ?I will be a CCIE? (with all due respect to the
Cciesecrets Jim?s e-book, which I appreciated). Use the words ?I am
becoming a CCIE?. Because it is true, you become a CCIE on the present, as
a process, during the days we spend training and discovering new ways to
test the configuration, verifying points that we really did not know that
well, learning the behavior of the IOS (even the bugs), using all books
available to go deep on the technology, being pleasure to see how many
good authors are out there to help us.
Although we found many bugs on this journey going deep on the technology
(that make us crazy adding difficulties to the process), Cisco still is
one of the most stable and logical platform I have worked with for the
last several years. And I mean companies like Ericson, Synoptics, Hughes,
Nec and Newbridge.
The documentation is by far the best and accessible on the market, and the
small mistakes are just part of the great work.
A little history of my certification:
I am involved with the CCIE lab for the last two years (one year for the
writing). Considering the beginning, Cisco certification brings me back to
2000, when I bought my first certification book, by Wendell, at that nice
bookstore in the World Trade Center (I think second floor). CCNA and the
four CCNP tests were like a flash. Then, CCIE was like a wall in front of
me. A 100 feet wall, while I am about 6 feet tall. The support of the
LORD, Family, Managers, Workmates, Groupstudy, Authors and so many helped
me to find a way to go over it. Thanks.
Well, sorry to bother you with so many words.
Good Luck!! Keep on the Road!!
Cordially
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Gladston
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