From: Jacob Owen (jakeowen23@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Jul 14 2005 - 09:35:57 GMT-3
NetChild,
HC is in fact Hellocomputers. The rumor is HC lost
their abilities to sell Cisco related test preparation
material due to NDA violations. I got their workbook
and still have access to the answer key but as stated
by others, the answer key seems very incomplete. I
guess IPExpert is your sole choice for an SP lab
workbook if you hadn't gotten one before the
"downfall" of HC. Good luck!
--- ccie <ccie@netchild.pub.sa> wrote:
> I was checking the IPExpert website and I can see
> their workbook, but for
> HC, they do not has any cisco's workbook ?! is Hello
> computers is HC ?!
>
> Regards,
> NetChild,
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DOUGLAS, DAVID N (AIT)" <dd2916@sbc.com>
> To: "Mike Dickson" <Mike@dicksonnetworks.com>
> Cc: <comserv@groupstudy.com>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 5:02 PM
> Subject: RE: Observations on passing the Service
> Provider lab
>
>
> >I recently passed the CCIE SP on June 27th. I had
> purchased the IPExpert
> >and HC workbook. I found much more value in the HC
> workbook than the
> >IPExpert. In the HC all of the basics were there
> and it was laid out very
> >nicely. The solutions were not as complete as the
> IPExpert workbook, but I
> >would rather have no configs than wrong ones.
> There are lots of errors in
> >the IPExpert workbook and much of the book was a
> waste of time. Actually I
> >shouldn't say it is a waste of time because that
> all depends on an
> >individuals experience and strong points. As with
> anything, it is a good
> >idea to get as much information and research on a
> topic as possible before
> >claiming to be an expert. We need to remember
> that! These books are not
> >here to baby step us through passing the lab. I
> felt the HC book taught me
> >the basics on which to build on.
> >
> > Bottom line is that this is a rough track to
> pursue and there really are
> > not any training companies to rely on.
> >
> > My ".02
> >
> > Dave Douglas
> > CCIE #14155 (R&S/SP)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Mike Dickson
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:11 PM
> > To: comserv@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: Observations on passing the Service
> Provider lab
> >
> >
> > Sorry, I agreed to the NDA.
> >
> > I used the IPExpert and Hello Computers workbook.
> You can't purchase
> > the Hello Computer workbook, which is a blessing,
> because it wasn't
> > worth the paper it was printed on. The IPExpert
> WB was very helpful. I
> > would also recommend that you start with the
> blueprint and work your way
> > down the list, using CCO and
> www.cisco.com.univercd to familiarize
> > yourself with all of the topics.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lee Bruce [mailto:ccie.sp.vn@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:30 PM
> > To: Mike Dickson
> > Cc: comserv@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Observations on passing the Service
> Provider lab
> >
> > Mike,
> > There's not ISDN in blueprint. Did you see it in
> the Lab? Now, there are
> > very few workbook for CCIE SP, so how did you
> practice to test your
> > knowledge before taking lab?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/6/05, Mike Dickson <Mike@dicksonnetworks.com>
> wrote:
> >> When I was studying for my R&S and Security, I
> didn't use the
> >> blueprint very much. For the SP lab, though, I
> started with the
> >> blueprint because there's not much else out there
> geared for the SP.
> >> Using the blueprint like you say really helped.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Joe Deleonardo
> [mailto:jdeleonardo@networkinsight.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:44 PM
> >> To: Neil Moore; Mike Dickson;
> comserv@groupstudy.com;
> >> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: RE: Observations on passing the Service
> Provider lab
> >>
> >> I'm trying something different this time. I'm
> going down the blue
> >> print item by item.
> >>
> >> I never did that on R&S or Security. I locked
> myself into the
> > workbooks.
> >> Then of course I'd take the lab and there's
> something on it I've never
> >
> >> seen before.
> >>
> >> I wonder if I'm the only person that over looked
> the blue print as a
> >> tool. It seems so dumb on my part to have over
> looked it in the past.
> >>
> >> I've gone through both books workbooks,
> configured everything I wasn't
> >
> >> familiar with. But going down the blue print has
> helped me a lot.
> >>
> >> Even though a lot of it isn't difficult... like
> 802.1Q-in-Q or NSF. It
> >
> >> would be such a waste of time in a lab to go look
> up something trivial
> >
> >> when I could use the time for something more
> important.
> >>
> >> I also have to say I think the TAC case
> collection can be priceless.
> >> Here's the link if anyone is interested:
> >>
>
http://www.cisco.com/kobayashi/support/tac/tsa/launch_tsa.html
> >>
> >> Have a good night everyone!
> >>
> >> Regards-
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >> From: Neil Moore [mailto:neil@droopy.com]
> >> Sent: Mon 7/4/2005 8:05 PM
> >> To: Joe Deleonardo; Mike Dickson;
> comserv@groupstudy.com;
> >> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: Re: Observations on passing the Service
> Provider lab
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> When I was studying for the SP lab.. what I did
> was take my R&S labs
> >> and modify them to the service provider
> blueprint.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Joe Deleonardo"
> <jdeleonardo@networkinsight.com>
> >> To: "Mike Dickson" <Mike@dicksonnetworks.com>;
> >> <comserv@groupstudy.com>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:11 PM
> >> Subject: RE: Observations on passing the Service
> Provider lab
> >>
> >>
> >> > Congratulations! It must feel so good to pass
> on the first attempt.
> >> >
> >> > And thank you! My lab is in nine days. I've
> been through both books
> >> > HC
> >>
> >> > and IPExpert, but had be focusing on HC. I has
> be putting that book
>
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Jacob Owen - CCIE #14063 (R&S)
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