From: Hoogen (hoogen82@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jul 17 2005 - 03:22:50 GMT-3
I think IPV6 is not listed on the SP lab blueprint. But i would say it
would'nt be that difficult even if it appeared in the lab, they just
test it for some points(my guess).
Hoogen
CCIE #14731(R&S)
On 7/16/05, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
> If it is listed on the blueprint then yes. If not, then no.
>
> Otherwise NDA prevents much better of an answer!
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Mohammad Dewan
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 11:12 PM
> To: 'Patrick B'; Dalu-Chandu, Jay; ccie
> Cc: comserv@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Observations on passing the Service Provider lab
>
> hi
> I need to ask about IPv6 is it there in SP lab
>
> thankx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick B [mailto:pos_768@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 2:51 AM
> To: Dalu-Chandu, Jay; ccie
> Cc: comserv@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Observations on passing the Service Provider lab
>
>
> I purchased the Hello Computers workbook. It was the biggest waste of my
> time. The scenarios where not complex, all solutions are wrong, and the book
> held no structure. After doing 2 labs I basically abandoned it.
>
> The materials I used to prep are as follows:
>
> - mpls vpn architectures (first edition)
>
> - mpls vpn architectures (second edition)
>
> - mpls-TE
>
> - CCIP QoS student guide
>
> - Developing IP Multicast networks
>
> - CCO online Documentation for 12.3 code
>
> - Networkers MPLS and Multicast presentations (good inter-AS breakdown)
>
> - 60+ lab scenarios, 10 lab topologies
>
> - 12.3T code
>
>
>
> The lab was easy enough to pass on the first time if you already have your
> R&S IE. Unfortunately I didn't know a subject very well and it encompassed a
> lot of points. However, the second attempt was all good.
>
>
>
> My recommendation is to know your &%#^ and do as many labs as you can.
>
>
>
> Patrick Brown. 12173 {R&S, Service Provider}
>
>
> "Dalu-Chandu, Jay" <JD163604@ncr.com> wrote:
> Guys,
>
> Why all this talk of Lab Workbooks? The early CCIE candidates prepared using
> the documentation CD, there own initiatives and self developed lab
> scenario's.
>
> Use the Lab Objectives and build scenario's incorporating each of the
> technologies. Many users of this group can provide hints and tips for
> learning particular technologies. Just my thoughts.
>
> Regards
>
> Jay Dalu-Chandu
>
> --
> Network Consultant (BEng)
> NCR UK Limited
> Work:+44 (20)77258105 Mobile: +44 (0)7803231944
> Email: jay.dalu-chandu@ncr.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Jacob Owen
> Sent: 14 July 2005 13:36
> To: ccie; DOUGLAS, DAVID N (AIT); Mike Dickson
> Cc: comserv@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Observations on passing the Service Provider lab
>
> NetChild,
> HC is in fact Hellocomputers. The rumor is HC lost their abilities to sell
> Cisco related test preparation material due to NDA violations. I got their
> workbook and still have access to the answer key but as stated by others,
> the answer key seems very incomplete. I guess IPExpert is your sole choice
> for an SP lab workbook if you hadn't gotten one before the "downfall" of HC.
> Good luck!
>
> --- ccie wrote:
>
> > I was checking the IPExpert website and I can see their workbook, but
> > for HC, they do not has any cisco's workbook ?! is Hello computers is
> > HC ?!
> >
> > Regards,
> > NetChild,
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "DOUGLAS, DAVID N (AIT)"
>
> > To: "Mike Dickson"
> > Cc: ;
> >
> > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 5:02 PM
> > Subject: RE: Observations on passing the Service Provider lab
> >
> >
> > >I recently passed the CCIE SP on June 27th. I had
> > purchased the IPExpert
> > >and HC workbook. I found much more value in the HC
> > workbook than the
> > >IPExpert. In the HC all of the basics were there
> > and it was laid out very
> > >nicely. The solutions were not as complete as the
> > IPExpert workbook, but I
> > >would rather have no configs than wrong ones.
> > There are lots of errors in
> > >the IPExpert workbook and much of the book was a
> > waste of time. Actually I
> > >shouldn't say it is a waste of time because that
> > all depends on an
> > >individuals experience and strong points. As with
> > anything, it is a good
> > >idea to get as much information and research on a
> > topic as possible before
> > >claiming to be an expert. We need to remember
> > that! These books are not
> > >here to baby step us through passing the lab. I
> > felt the HC book taught me
> > >the basics on which to build on.
> > >
> > > Bottom line is that this is a rough track to
> > pursue and there really are
> > > not any training companies to rely on.
> > >
> > > My ".02
> > >
> > > Dave Douglas
> > > CCIE #14155 (R&S/SP)
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Mike Dickson
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:11 PM
> > > To: comserv@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: RE: Observations on passing the Service
> > Provider lab
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry, I agreed to the NDA.
> > >
> > > I used the IPExpert and Hello Computers workbook.
> > You can't purchase
> > > the Hello Computer workbook, which is a blessing,
> > because it wasn't
> > > worth the paper it was printed on. The IPExpert
> > WB was very helpful. I
> > > would also recommend that you start with the
> > blueprint and work your way
> > > down the list, using CCO and
> > www.cisco.com.univercd to familiarize
> > > yourself with all of the topics.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Lee Bruce [mailto:ccie.sp.vn@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:30 PM
> > > To: Mike Dickson
> > > Cc: comserv@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: Observations on passing the Service
> > Provider lab
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > > There's not ISDN in blueprint. Did you see it in
> > the Lab? Now, there are
> > > very few workbook for CCIE SP, so how did you
> > practice to test your
> > > knowledge before taking lab?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/6/05, Mike Dickson
> > wrote:
> > >> When I was studying for my R&S and Security, I
> > didn't use the
> > >> blueprint very much. For the SP lab, though, I
> > started with the
> > >> blueprint because there's not much else out there
> > geared for the SP.
> > >> Using the blueprint like you say really helped.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Joe Deleonardo
> > [mailto:jdeleonardo@networkinsight.com]
> > >> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:44 PM
> > >> To: Neil Moore; Mike Dickson;
> > comserv@groupstudy.com;
> > >> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > >> Subject: RE: Observations on passing the Service
> > Provider lab
> > >>
> > >> I'm trying something different this time. I'm
> > going down the blue
> > >> print item by item.
> > >>
> > >> I never did that on R&S or Security. I locked
> > myself into the
> > > workbooks.
> > >> Then of course I'd take the lab and there's
> > something on it I've never
> > >
> > >> seen before.
> > >>
> > >> I wonder if I'm the only person that over looked
> > the blue print as a
> > >> tool. It seems so dumb on my part to have over
> > looked it in the past.
> > >>
> > >> I've gone through both books workbooks,
> > configured everything I wasn't
> > >
> > >> familiar with. But going down the blue print has
> > helped me a lot.
> > >>
> > >> Even though a lot of it isn't difficult... like
> > 802.1Q-in-Q or NSF. It
> > >
> > >> would be such a waste of time in a lab to go look
> > up something trivial
> > >
> > >> when I could use the time for something more
> > important.
> > >>
> > >> I also have to say I think the TAC case
> > collection can be priceless.
> > >> Here's the link if anyone is interested:
> > >>
> >
> http://www.cisco.com/kobayashi/support/tac/tsa/launch_tsa.html
> > >>
> > >> Have a good night everyone!
> > >>
> > >> Regards-
> > >>
> > >> Joe
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >>
> > >> From: Neil Moore [mailto:neil@droopy.com]
> > >> Sent: Mon 7/4/2005 8:05 PM
> > >> To: Joe Deleonardo; Mike Dickson;
> > comserv@groupstudy.com;
> > >> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > >> Subject: Re: Observations on passing the Service
> > Provider lab
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> When I was studying for the SP lab.. what I did
> > was take my R&S labs
> > >> and modify them to the service provider
> > blueprint.
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Joe Deleonardo"
> >
> > >> To: "Mike Dickson" ;
> > >> ;
> >
> > >> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:11 PM
> > >> Subject: RE: Observations on passing the Service
> > Provider lab
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Congratulations! It must feel so good to pass
> > on the first attempt.
> > >> >
> > >> > And thank you! My lab is in nine days. I've
> > been through both books
> > >> > HC
> > >>
> > >> > and IPExpert, but had be focusing on HC. I has
> > be putting that book
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>
> Jacob Owen - CCIE #14063 (R&S)
>
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