From: Guyler, Rik (rguyler@shp-dayton.org)
Date: Fri May 20 2005 - 11:40:46 GMT-3
I am in the process of purchasing several lab books from Network Learning.
I've been buying their Lab book since the original version and while there
were some format issues early on, I found the scenarios to be excellent (the
newer lab books are formatted much nicer now) and I can get the updates for
very little expense once I make the initial purchase. The other materials
look really promising as well so when they arrive I'll post a review.
Rik
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From: ccie2be [mailto:ccie2be@nyc.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 11:05 AM
To: 'Shanky'; 'Melwani, Manoj J'
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Whats a good way to start for the Lab Prep
Shanky,
The IE labs cover the pretty much the whole range of topics listed in the
ccie lab Blueprint.
As you begin your lab prep, I thought should mention a couple things I
didn't address in my note yesterday.
1. Make sure you truly achieve an expert's level of knowledge on the layer 2
technologies before tackling routing protocols. This is because if you're
not able to complete the layer 2 portion of the lab correctly or in a short
period of time ( around an hour or so depending on the given lab), you'll
have almost no chance of passing the actual lab. No matter how well you
know routing protocols, if you're layer 2 config's don't work, your routing
protocols won't route.
(As a side note, even if, in the lab, you're routing protocols are 100%
correctly configure, if they don't work because of problems at layer 2, you
lose all the points for any routing protocols that aren't working 100%.)
2. There are some excellent Cisco Press books available to help you learn
the layer 2 technologies. Go to the Cisco Press website to see what's
available. For switching, make sure you study the Kennedy and Clark book,
LAN Switching and also pick up a copy of one of the more recent books on
switching. There are at least a couple that are very good.
Also, as you study and practice layer 2 technologies, cover all the topics
but as you do, consider whether the topic you're studying is a "core"
feature or a non-core feature. Here's the distinction: A core topic
affects connectivity and non-core feature don't. If a core feature doesn't
work properly, your routing protocols which ride on top won't work. For
example, if spanning tree is mis-configured, critical ports might be blocked
and prevent your routing protocols from working properly.
3. There's an excellent Cisco Press book on Frame Relay. Get it and study
it.
4. For isdn, I don't know of one book that can be considered a "classic" on
the topic, but several good books do exist. For the lab, focus on BRI, PPP,
dialer profiles, backup techniques, and callback.
5 For ATM, which can be very intimidating, there are just 8 configuration
versions you have to know. Do a google on Bradshaw Labs. They have a write
up that covers most if not all that you have to know.
5. There are a couple other topics which are fundamental and you have to
know inside out but don't fall neatly into the layer 2, Layer 3 or non-core
topics categories. This includes acl, route-maps, and prefix-lists.
There's a McGraw-Hill book on acl's which is pretty good and there's also an
excellent Cisco Press book by Richard Deal called Cisco Router Firewall
Security which I highly recommend. You must become an expert on
configuring, applying and testing acl's to pass the lab.
Having pass the written, you've already come a long way towards becoming a
ccie. But, even so, there's a huge difference between choosing the right
answer on a multiple choice test and making the routers and switches work
the way you're instructed to on the lab. If you want to get a good sense of
how difficult the lab is and how close or far you are from being ready to
tackle the lab, a few vendors offer mock labs.
HTH, Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Shanky
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:48 AM
To: Melwani, Manoj J
Cc: ccie2be; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Whats a good way to start for the Lab Prep
Thanks Tim/Manoj,
Thanks Tim for the Tips and sparing your time.
I believe Internetwork Expert is hot these days..
I was browsing their website and think its the IEWB-RS Volumes I & II which
you guys are recommending.
I will have a look at the sample provided and then decide.
Meanwhile, can you guys who are using their product tell me what all is
included in these IEWB-RS Volumes I & II ?
TIA
Shanky
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