From: McNeace, Roger (RMcNeace@ciena.com)
Date: Thu Feb 17 2005 - 16:52:38 GMT-3
There will always be cheats out there, but it really comes down to character. It took me 4 tries and 3 years to get my number and at my lowest points I never dreamed of finding a shortcut to achieve this goal. It just would not have as fulfilling. So, I hope you can see why some of us might be upset when people look for shortcuts. The CCIE exam not only tests your technical abilities, for me it tested my fortitude to persevere. I can usually ferret out non-ethical folks like this during the interview process, but some do slip by and give us all a bad rep.
Roger McNeace CCIE#12777
Prinicipal Network Engineer
Ciena Corporation
410-694-5805
rmcneace@ciena.com
-----Original Message-----
From: libone mhlanga [mailto:libone@lycos.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:46 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
Couldn't resist either ...so into the fray with both feet !!
I find this discussion a bit rich as I know quite a few CCIE's who got their number due to practicing on braindump labs from other candidates. In fact I know one guy who played a statistical game with this as he had quite a few braindump labs that he used to call the ".xxx lab" ".yyy lab" ( after the 2nd Octet of the ip add range ) so by playing a game of probabilities he was pretty sure he would get the ".xxx lab" so he practiced on it one day before the lab exam and lo-and-behold he got that exact paper ...and his number of course. How do I know this ? He rang me straight after the exam ! How would any of you know thats how he got his number ? he had also studied for as long as any of us and had quite a bit of practical experience as well ...so how the hell would you tell ? Can a CCIE answer every question there is ?
What about the guy with 20 years experience and fails the CCIE ...is he less of an Engineer than the guy with a number ?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gajewski Mariusz" <Mariusz.Gajewski@telekomunikacja.pl>
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:02:44 +0100
>
> such subjects will ALWAYS produce such discussions on GS :) Bobby,
> don't feel sorry for asking such questions , feel sorry for using this
> crap :)
>
> Just my 2c
> Cheers,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Bobby
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:43 PM
> To: loc.pham@comcast.net; 'Keane, James'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
>
>
> Folks:
>
> I have not used it and just heard it was a good study tool. I think
> most of you need to get off of your high horse of accusations. I was
> just asking a question and am sorry that I did. Geez.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: loc.pham@comcast.net [mailto:loc.pham@comcast.net]
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:29 AM
> To: Keane, James; Bobby; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
>
> Well said, James....
>
> Just like JeffD. wrote : ... do you wanna fry with that ? ( tcpip v1 )
> That is the mentality that I am aiming for ...
> lP.
>
>
> > You probably get de-certified for using this illegal material.
> > It is in clear breach of the NDA, TestKing have destroyed most other
> > certifications the idiots who purchase the material are also to
> > blame.
> > It completely undermines and devalues the exam we all are studing for.
> >
> > If you used this for your CCIE Written you probably dont know your
> > material (and could get decertified of ALL cisco qualifications)
> >
> > I for one believe in becoming a CCIE not for the purpose of just
> > 'getting
> it'
> > but to be able to walk into any networking environment knowing your
> > stuff and say
> >
> > 'stand back gentlemen, let the professionals take over!'
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bobby [mailto:robertgacker@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: 16 February 2005 20:17
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: TestKing CCIE Labs
> >
> >
> > Are these any good for the labs? I have heard they were good for
> > the written. Can anyone please advise?
> >
> > Also, has anyone taken the new CCIE R&S test with IPv6 in it? Just
> > wondering how it compared to last years tests.
> >
> > Bobby
> >
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