From: loc.pham@comcast.net
Date: Sat Jan 08 2005 - 14:57:27 GMT-3
He he, you guys are brilliant, I know what to do from now .
Regards, LP
> Vijay,
>
> If everything else works as it's supposed to, you'll lose only the points
> for the ATM config.
>
> My example was specific to the situation where you didn't achieve layer 2
> connectivity.
>
> If you can achieve layer 2 connectivity but not in the way required, you'll
> lose only those points related
>
> to the incorrect layer 2 connectivity.
>
> However, this scenario is a bit contrived in that sometimes, if not often,
> there'll be
>
> other dependencies.
>
> On the positive side, once you get past the BGP section, most other tasks
> that follow aren't dependent on any other
>
> tasks that also follow.
>
> HTH, Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Vijaybhasker.Vuppala2@ge.com>
> To: <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; <terry.francona@gmail.com>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:02 PM
> Subject: RE: Something I Forgot to Ask the Proctor
>
>
> > Can some one clarify this question.
> >
> > In Tim's example, what if, if i'm able to bringup the ATM connection in a
> > manner, which doesn't bringup the connection in what Cisco is looking for,
> > but still if i can manage to bringup the connection with a different
> > configuration...
> >
> > After that, my IGPs, QOS, BGP everything else works since there's a IP
> > reachability to the backbone....
> >
> > In the above case will I loose points only for ATM or for everything
> else...
> >
> > In IEWB, I see it's mentioned, in the above scenario only I would loose
> > points for ATM not for others..
> >
> > Thanks
> > Vijay
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ccie2be [mailto:ccie2be@nyc.rr.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:29 AM
> > To: Anthony Sequeira; Cisco certification
> > Subject: Re: Something I Forgot to Ask the Proctor
> >
> >
> > Grading on the lab is very harsh.
> >
> > As was already pointed out, for any group of tasks collectively assigned a
> > point value, it's all or none.
> >
> > However, you can also lose lots of points due to interdependencies.
> >
> > For example, let's say you've configured task B 100% correctly but it
> still
> > doesn't work
> >
> > because task A isn't configured 100% correctly.
> >
> > In this case, you lose all points for both task A and task B.
> >
> > To make this example even more concrete, let's say you can't figure out
> how
> > to establish
> >
> > connectivity over the ATM link to a backbone router and you also need to
> > configure some sort of
> >
> > filtering or QoS over that ATM link. Each task, let's assume is worth 3
> > points, so right off the bat, you're down 6 points.
> >
> > Then, in the IGP section, you're suppose to establish an IGP adjacency
> with
> > that same backbone router and also
> >
> > advertise a summary route or a default route to the backbone. You know
> this
> > stuff cold and configure your IGP
> >
> > 100% correctly. However, since you don't have layer 2 connectivity, you
> > still lose another 6 points for these tasks.
> >
> > Now, you're down 12 points, but it gets worse.
> >
> > You're now required to setup BGP peering over this ATM link and do some
> > traffic engineering. Once again, you know this stuff well
> >
> > and configure it correctly but still you lose all the points for these
> tasks
> > as well. Now, you're down a total of 18 points.
> >
> > You have only a 2 point margin of error for everything else on the lab.
> >
> > Given this type of grading, the moral of the story is you must get the
> core
> > topics to have a remote chance of passing the lab.
> >
> > HTH, Tim
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Anthony Sequeira" <terry.francona@gmail.com>
> > To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:50 PM
> > Subject: Something I Forgot to Ask the Proctor
> >
> >
> > > What is the verdict on this one?
> > >
> > > Does Cisco award partial credit for a task . . .for example - let's
> > > examine this hypothetical task (pardon its simpleness):
> > >
> > > IP Services
> > >
> > > 7.2 You need to configure R4 and R6 to obtain their time
> > > synchronization from R2 using NTP. You should use authentication of
> > > the NTP transfers. (2 points)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If your NTP is successful - but authentication is not (and NTP still
> > > works) - might you get 1 point?????
> > >
> > > You can see where I am going with this - if you are running out of
> > > time and you know you cannot do Part B - should you bother to do Part
> > > A - or does it do you no good?
> > >
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