Re: Something I Forgot to Ask the Proctor

From: ccie2be (ccie2be@nyc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Jan 08 2005 - 14:48:16 GMT-3


Vijay,

If everything else works as it's supposed to, you'll lose only the points
for the ATM config.

My example was specific to the situation where you didn't achieve layer 2
connectivity.

If you can achieve layer 2 connectivity but not in the way required, you'll
lose only those points related

to the incorrect layer 2 connectivity.

However, this scenario is a bit contrived in that sometimes, if not often,
there'll be

other dependencies.

On the positive side, once you get past the BGP section, most other tasks
that follow aren't dependent on any other

tasks that also follow.

HTH, Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: <Vijaybhasker.Vuppala2@ge.com>
To: <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; <terry.francona@gmail.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:02 PM
Subject: RE: Something I Forgot to Ask the Proctor

> Can some one clarify this question.
>
> In Tim's example, what if, if i'm able to bringup the ATM connection in a
> manner, which doesn't bringup the connection in what Cisco is looking for,
> but still if i can manage to bringup the connection with a different
> configuration...
>
> After that, my IGPs, QOS, BGP everything else works since there's a IP
> reachability to the backbone....
>
> In the above case will I loose points only for ATM or for everything
else...
>
> In IEWB, I see it's mentioned, in the above scenario only I would loose
> points for ATM not for others..
>
> Thanks
> Vijay
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ccie2be [mailto:ccie2be@nyc.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:29 AM
> To: Anthony Sequeira; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Something I Forgot to Ask the Proctor
>
>
> Grading on the lab is very harsh.
>
> As was already pointed out, for any group of tasks collectively assigned a
> point value, it's all or none.
>
> However, you can also lose lots of points due to interdependencies.
>
> For example, let's say you've configured task B 100% correctly but it
still
> doesn't work
>
> because task A isn't configured 100% correctly.
>
> In this case, you lose all points for both task A and task B.
>
> To make this example even more concrete, let's say you can't figure out
how
> to establish
>
> connectivity over the ATM link to a backbone router and you also need to
> configure some sort of
>
> filtering or QoS over that ATM link. Each task, let's assume is worth 3
> points, so right off the bat, you're down 6 points.
>
> Then, in the IGP section, you're suppose to establish an IGP adjacency
with
> that same backbone router and also
>
> advertise a summary route or a default route to the backbone. You know
this
> stuff cold and configure your IGP
>
> 100% correctly. However, since you don't have layer 2 connectivity, you
> still lose another 6 points for these tasks.
>
> Now, you're down 12 points, but it gets worse.
>
> You're now required to setup BGP peering over this ATM link and do some
> traffic engineering. Once again, you know this stuff well
>
> and configure it correctly but still you lose all the points for these
tasks
> as well. Now, you're down a total of 18 points.
>
> You have only a 2 point margin of error for everything else on the lab.
>
> Given this type of grading, the moral of the story is you must get the
core
> topics to have a remote chance of passing the lab.
>
> HTH, Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Sequeira" <terry.francona@gmail.com>
> To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:50 PM
> Subject: Something I Forgot to Ask the Proctor
>
>
> > What is the verdict on this one?
> >
> > Does Cisco award partial credit for a task . . .for example - let's
> > examine this hypothetical task (pardon its simpleness):
> >
> > IP Services
> >
> > 7.2 You need to configure R4 and R6 to obtain their time
> > synchronization from R2 using NTP. You should use authentication of
> > the NTP transfers. (2 points)
> >
> >
> >
> > If your NTP is successful - but authentication is not (and NTP still
> > works) - might you get 1 point?????
> >
> > You can see where I am going with this - if you are running out of
> > time and you know you cannot do Part B - should you bother to do Part
> > A - or does it do you no good?
> >
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