From: joshua lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Jan 07 2005 - 20:20:02 GMT-3
I do have to admit that the last time I "tested" this was in a CCNP
Remote-access class many moons ago...I have not used this command since and
was told it was really never needed. I do know it didnt work but I cannot
remember the specifics....I would be interested to know exactly "what" this
command does. I'm curious.......
Joshua Lauer
RHCE, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, CCIP, CCSP,INFOSEC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian McGahan" <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
To: "joshua lauer" <jslauer@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 6:15 PM
Subject: RE: IEWB Lab 2 Task 9.10
Josh,
I just tested this and the "arp frame-relay" command has no
affect on auto-install over frame-relay. See the below output for more
detail:
TFTP server:
R6#
interface FastEthernet1/0/0
ip address 16.0.0.6 255.0.0.0
!
tftp-server slot0:router-confg
staging router:
R1#
interface Serial0/0
ip address 12.0.0.1 255.0.0.0
ip helper-address 16.0.0.6
encapsulation frame-relay
no ip route-cache
frame-relay map ip 12.0.0.2 102 broadcast
client:
--- System Configuration Dialog ---
Would you like to enter the initial configuration dialog? [yes/no]: n
Would you like to terminate autoinstall? [yes]: n
Please Wait. Autoinstall being attempted over Serial0/0
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Press RETURN to get started!
[output omitted]
Router>
[output omitted]
*Mar 1 00:02:20.205: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from
tftp://16.0.0.6/router-confg by console
AutoInstall>
The client loads the config hosted by R6. Now with "arp frame-relay"
disabled on R1:
R1#sh run int s0/0
Building configuration...
Current configuration : 215 bytes
!
interface Serial0/0
ip address 12.0.0.1 255.0.0.0
ip helper-address 16.0.0.6
encapsulation frame-relay
no ip route-cache
no ip mroute-cache
no arp frame-relay
frame-relay map ip 12.0.0.2 102 broadcast
client:
--- System Configuration Dialog ---
Would you like to enter the initial configuration dialog? [yes/no]: n
Would you like to terminate autoinstall? [yes]: n
Please Wait. Autoinstall being attempted over Serial0/0
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Press RETURN to get started!
[output omitted]
Router>
[output omitted]
*Mar 1 00:02:19.208: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from
tftp://16.0.0.6/router-confg by console
AutoInstall>
Chalk this one up as a CCIE myth. So... AFAIK the "arp
frame-relay" command does nothing. Any other suggestions?
Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> joshua lauer
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:43 PM
> To: bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com; reo@chavallos.net;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: IEWB Lab 2 Task 9.10
>
> No arp frame relay also can cause issues with auto-install over
frame.. I
> have not run into any scenario which I have had use for it.
>
> JL
>
> >From: "Brian McGahan"
> <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
> >Reply-To: "Brian McGahan"
> <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
> >To: <reo@chavallos.net>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Subject: RE: IEWB Lab 2 Task 9.10
> >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:38:47 -0500
> >
> >Reo,
> >
> > If you enter both "no arp frame-relay" and "no
> frame-relay
> >inverse-arp" what you are seeing is the behavior of the
"no
> frame-relay
> >inverse-arp" command. What I would suggest is for you to go
> through our
> >technologies lab series, as there is in-depth coverage on exactly
how
> >Frame Relay Inverse-ARP performs in various circumstances. For
more
> >information see http://www.internetworkexpert.com/ietl-rs.htm.
> >
> >
> >HTH,
> >
> >Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
> >bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> >
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> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
On
> Behalf
> >Of
> > > reo@chavallos.net
> > > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:23 PM
> > > To: Brian McGahan; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: IEWB Lab 2 Task 9.10
> > >
> > > both commands together, not one or another.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Brian McGahan"
> <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
> > > To: <reo@chavallos.net>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 12:43 PM
> > > Subject: RE: IEWB Lab 2 Task 9.10
> > >
> > >
> > > > Reo,
> > > >
> > > > I suggest you test them again :)
> > > >
> > > > R1#show run int s0/0
> > > > Building configuration...
> > > >
> > > > Current configuration : 105 bytes
> > > > !
> > > > interface Serial0/0
> > > > ip address 10.0.0.1 255.0.0.0
> > > > encapsulation frame-relay
> > > > no arp frame-relay
> > > > end
> > > >
> > > > R1#show frame-relay map
> > > > Serial0/0 (up): ip 10.0.0.2 dlci 102(0x66,0x1860),
dynamic,
> > > >
^^^^^^^
> > > > broadcast,, status defined, active
> > > > R1#
> > > > Rack2AS>2
> > > > [Resuming connection 2 to r2 ... ]
> > > >
> > > > R2#show run int s0/0
> > > > Building configuration...
> > > >
> > > > Current configuration : 105 bytes
> > > > !
> > > > interface Serial0/0
> > > > ip address 10.0.0.2 255.0.0.0
> > > > encapsulation frame-relay
> > > > no arp frame-relay
> > > > end
> > > >
> > > > R2#show frame-relay map
> > > > Serial0/0 (up): ip 10.0.0.1 dlci 201(0xC9,0x3090),
dynamic,
> > > >
^^^^^^^
> > > > broadcast,, status defined, active
> > > >
> > > > What does the above output indicate?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
> > > > bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> >Behalf
> > > > Of
> > > > > reo@chavallos.net
> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 1:16 PM
> > > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: IEWB Lab 2 Task 9.10
> > > > >
> > > > > no frame-relay inverse-arp
> > > > > no arp frame-relay
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I used (tested) these two commands to disable
> frame-relay
> >arp.
> > > > > Second command is not used in CCIE R&S
Practical
> Labs solutions.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > CCIE Lab is not about commands it's about
solutions,
> the
> same task
> >can
> > > > be
> > > > > completed differently and as long as the results
meet
> task
> >requirement
> > > > you
> > > > > get the points.
> > > > >
> > > > > -R
> > > > > CCIE #12994
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Brian McGahan"
> <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
> > > > > To: <reo@chavallos.net>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:59 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: IEWB Lab 2 Task 9.10
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > The example can be frame-relay arp -
they
> expect one command,
> >you
> > > > can
> > > > > > use
> > > > > > > two...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which command are you referring to? Have you
> tested this? :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
> > > > > > bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > > Of
> > > > > > > reo@chavallos.net
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 12:52 PM
> > > > > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: IEWB Lab 2 Task 9.10
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Extra command which does not break the
> solution would not take
> > > > points
> > > > > > > away.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The example can be frame-relay arp -
they
> expect one command,
> >you
> > > > can
> > > > > > use
> > > > > > > two...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -R
> > > > > > > CCIE #12944
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Brian Dennis"
> <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
> > > > > > > To: <reo@chavallos.net>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:50 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: IEWB Lab 2 Task 9.10
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Neither needs to be adjusted. It's
our
> goal in the workbook
> >to
> > > > not
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > help you pass the lab but learn the
> technologies. This is
> >one
> > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > scenarios that do both. If you put
the
> extra command in
> >your
> > > > > > > > configuration they are not going to
> take
> points away from
> >you on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > lab.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210
> (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
> > > > > > > > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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US
> and
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
> >On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > > Of
> > > > > > > > reo@chavallos.net
> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005
8:26
> PM
> > > > > > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: IEWB Lab 2 Task 9.10
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nice to know about MQC queue
> calculation.
> Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Unfortunately, the solution for the
> task
> is more that the
> >task
> > > > > > require
> > > > > > > > (with
> > > > > > > > is ok for real lab).
> > > > > > > > Task does not ask to do anything
with
> the
> queue.
> > > > > > > > Either solution or task wording
need to
> adjusted.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Brian Dennis"
> <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
> > > > > > > > To: <reo@chavallos.net>
> > > > > > > > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005
6:11
> PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: IEWB Lab 2 Task 9.10
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You could safely assume that
it's
> a
> question with a hidden
> > > > answer
> > > > > > ;-)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As far as "why",
read
> the
> caution note for the solution.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210
> (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
> > > > > > > > > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > > > > > > >
http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> > > > > > > > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > > > > > > > > Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside
the
> US
> and Canada)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 17:55
-0800,
> reo@chavallos.net
> >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > is this a question with
> hidden
> answer?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > or you actually asking
for
> task
> wording?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message
-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Brian
> McGahan"
> <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
> > > > > > > > > > To:
> <reo@chavallos.net>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January
06,
> 2005 5:16 PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: IEWB Lab 2
Task
> 9.10
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What does the task
ask
> for?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Brian McGahan, CCIE
> #8593
> > > > > > > > > > >
> bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original
> Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From:
> nobody@groupstudy.com
> > > > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
> > > > > > On
> > > > > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > > > > > > Of
> > > > > > > > > > > >
reo@chavallos.net
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday,
> January 06, 2005 6:27 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To:
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: IEWB
Lab 2
> Task 9.10
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm at the
stage
> when
> I'm trying to understand every
> > > > little
> > > > > > > > detail...
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Why task gives
line
> speed (512kbps)?
> > > > > > > > > > > > Why the
solution
> has
> "bandwidth 512" under the
> > > > interface?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -R
> > > > > > > > > > > > #12944
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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