From: Nguyen Hoang Long (ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn)
Date: Tue Dec 28 2004 - 13:44:03 GMT-3
Ricardo is right,
The two inherent reasons:
1- play important roles in interesting projects. Several of CCIEs I know in
countries around, they're really happy to come to Vietnam, just because they
have chance to design, implement state-of-the-art networks. I guess not high
% of CCIE in the world having chance to design/implement "million $ worth"
networks.
I witness some of CCIE in a developed country going to install Modem, NTU,
or SOHO routers, which frankly I don't have chance to touch it for quite a
long time ;-)
2- take home most of your salary ( after daily expenses)
Anyway, I posted this message is not for seeking a CCIE for my company, just
because I know one company needs that, and I want to share that information
here. I believe there's someone who's interested.
Thanks for your comments.
Regards,
Long #11898
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ricardo Silva" <ricardo.ferreira@quadcomm.com.br>
To: "joshua lauer" <jslauer@hotmail.com>
Cc: "Tony Schaffran" <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>; "'Richard Danu'"
<rdanu@apex3.com>; "'Hai Minh'" <minh@ipmac.com.vn>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
> Guys,
>
> How do u think a developing country will become a developed country in the
> future. They have to pave the way up to that level.... One of the most
> exciting things in working in developing countries is that u can design a
> nationwide IP network from the scratch. This is no longer possible even in
> the most developed country in the world....
>
> joshua lauer escreveu:
>
>> Good point,
>>
>> I'm thinking there is another factor here other than money, maybe to help
>> a developing country get back on it's feet is more valuable than
>> money...Kinda like the reason why some doctors and surgeons work for free
>> in those parts of the world..Personally, I would not prefer to work there
>> but I know a few people with a humanitarian bug in them that might take a
>> bite at such a deal, even for less money but only for a short time gig.
>>
>> jl
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Schaffran"
>> <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>
>> To: "'Richard Danu'" <rdanu@apex3.com>; "'Hai Minh'" <minh@ipmac.com.vn>;
>> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:25 AM
>> Subject: RE: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>>
>>
>>> You say the cost of living in Vietnam is low but why in the world would,
>>> let's say, someone from the US making $10,000.00 a month want to move
>>> half
>>> way around the world to make $2,000.00 a month?
>>>
>>> What is the incentive? Throw us a bone here.
>>>
>>> Tony Schaffran
>>> Network Analyst
>>> CCIE #11071
>>> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
>>> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>>>
>>> www.cconlinelabs.com
>>> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Richard Danu
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:00 AM
>>> To: 'Hai Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: RE: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>>>
>>> How about CCIE making hamburgers in Vietnam?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Hai
>>> Minh
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:54 AM
>>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: Re: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>>>
>>> What do you mean "degraded" ?
>>> Do you want to say about the salary ?
>>> How much does a hamburger cost in US ?
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Yasser Aly" <yaseraly00@yahoo.com>
>>> To: "Nguyen Hoang Long" <ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Is the CCIE value degraded that much ??
>>>>
>>>> Accepting such rates means that CCIE value is degrading !!
>>>>
>>>> Just my openion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nguyen Hoang Long <ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn> wrote:
>>>> hi group,
>>>> Sorry for unclear information, this vacancy is for valid CCIE ( not
>>>> CCIE
>>>> written)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Long
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nguyen Hoang Long"
>>>> To:
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 5:37 PM
>>>> Subject: CCIE hide in Vietnam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Hi group,
>>>> >
>>>> > There's a vacancy for CCIE in Vietnam ( either Hanoi capical or Ho
>>>> chi
>>>> > minh
>>>> > city) in one of the key Cisco's SI.
>>>> > The position is also very flexible, can be either post-sales or
>>>> > consultant.
>>>> > Salary : negotiate, around 1-2 K US (NET) plus incentive / month (
>>>> note
>>>> > that
>>>> > daily expense, house rental in Vietnam is very cheap)
>>>> >
>>>> > Vietnam is in the infrastructure development phase, the number of
>>>> > in-country
>>>> > CCIE is only 10, that means CCIE has good chance to involve in
>>>
>>> interesting
>>>
>>>> > projects.
>>>> >
>>>> > Anyone interested, send me an off-line e-mail.
>>>> >
>>>> > Nguyen Hoang Long, #11898
>>>> > ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn
>>>> >
>>>> >
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