From: istong@stong.org
Date: Sat Nov 27 2004 - 19:09:14 GMT-3
Hi John,
They are becoming obsolete in the sense that as time
progresses there are images they can't run which contain all
the features you need. You can run images for example that
support ISIS in the enterprise plus IOS but you can't also
support T train images at the same time. So you would need
to load 12.2 Enterprise for the ISIS piece and then 12.2T IP
basic for t train features but no ISIS support and so forth.
Hope that helps,
Ian
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> wow, i had no idea that the 2500's were really "obsolete".
> is there a 12.3 image for them? (i'm a bit confused as
> to how one knows if a model is obsolete).
> so isis is a problem then on the 2500's, eh? the 12.2
> enterprise image does not suffice?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> John D. Matus
> MCSE, CCNP
> Office: 818-782-2061
> Cell: 818-430-8372
> jmatus@pacbell.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grant Stevenson" <grant.h.stevenson@virgin.net>
> To: "Koen Peetermans" <K.Peetermans@chello.be>; "'Keane,
> James'" <James.Keane@agriculture.gov.ie>; "'John Matus'"
> <jmatus@pacbell.net>; "'lab'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:07 AM
> Subject: RE: home labs - obsolete 2500's
>
>
> > The biggest problem you will have is when you need to
> > run ISIS, and say MQS.
> > You will need to load certain version for one, and the
> > other won't work. I had this issue while studying
> > Brian's IEWB_RS stuff. I suggest the lowest end router
> > you get is a 2610. At least you have some flexibility
> and upgrade path. >
> > On the plus side, if you can live with the limitations,
> > their bloody cheap :-)
> >
> > I know have 12 of them that are obsolete, and not worth
> > selling as it will cost me more
> > to post them that what they are now worth on ebay.
> >
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> > PS, I upgraded for one reason, when I wanted to study, I
> > got really annoyed
> > that what was
> > expected was not happening, and this hindered my study.
> >
> > AS the Lab cost you a ?1000 a shot, you might as well
> > bite the bullet and buy the kit.
> > Once you pass you can always reseel it on ebay (if its
> > worth much when your
> > done!)
> >
> >
> > Regards Grant
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of Koen
> > Peetermans Sent: 27 November 2004 15:46
> > To: 'Keane, James'; 'John Matus'; 'lab'
> > Subject: RE: home labs - obsolete 2500's
> >
> >
> > Indeed; Don't throw them away just yet; apart from using
> > them as a frame-relay switch (eventually combine the
> > frame-relay switching and Backbone route generator in
> > one box), a 2511 will just do nicely as terminal
> > server (also possible to combine it as being a backbone
> > router). As a route generator, 12.2 Release Enterprise
> > will do just fine, no 12.2T needed.
> >
> > It's true that you will no be able to get all features
> > on a 2500, but if you
> > know ALL the features possible on a 2500 you'd already
> be an expert. >
> > 80% of the knowledge needed can be trained on a 2500,
> > for the other 20% get
> > one or two 2600(XM's), or hire a remote lab for some
> days. >
> > If you don't want to throw all your money out of the
> > window, get low-end, low-cost material at home (so you
> > can train whenever you want), and get sessions on remote
> racks for stuff like ATM. >
> > For example, I invested in voice stuff before my lab,
> > only to have come to the conclusion afterwards I'd been
> > much better (cheaper) off practicing for
> > a couple of days on a remote lab.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Koen.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Keane, James
> > Sent: zaterdag 27 november 2004 16:06
> > To: John Matus; groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; lab
> > Subject: RE: home labs - obsolete 2500's
> >
> > On the up side -
> >
> > I have used 3 2504's that were due for destruction and
> > linked them with a Cabletron hub (similar fate).
> > I brought them home and made a frame relay compound
> > switch which gives 2 frame relay clouds and three
> > interfaces per cloud. Of course you need to get a few
> > back to back cables and black boxes (6 in total)
> >
> > My configuration was adapted from the internetworkexpert
> > white paper (which
> > uses a 2501 and 2520)
> >
>
http://www.internetworkexpert.com/resources/compound.frame-relay.htm
> > (well done Brian Dennis & co)
> >
> > So don't chuck those 2500's just yet !
> >
> >
> > James Keane
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Matus [mailto:jmatus@pacbell.net]
> > Sent: 27 November 2004 04:08
> > To: groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; 'lab'
> > Subject: Re: home labs
> >
> >
> > are you sure about that tony?
> >
> > Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> > IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-IS-L), Version 12.2(15)T9,
> > RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)
> >
> > is the T9 a "T" version?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John D. Matus
> > MCSE, CCNP
> > Office: 818-782-2061
> > Cell: 818-430-8372
> > jmatus@pacbell.net
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony Schaffran" <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>
> > To: "'John Matus'" <jmatus@pacbell.net>; "'lab'"
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004
> > 7:55 PM Subject: RE: home labs
> >
> >
> > Actually, the 2500's are pretty much obsolete now.
> > There is not a 12.2T Enterprise for the 2500.
> >
> > Tony Schaffran
> > Network Analyst
> > CCIE #11071
> > CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> > NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
> >
> > www.cconlinelabs.com
> > Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of John
> > Matus
> > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:09 PM
> > To: lab
> > Subject: home labs
> >
> > i'm thinking of scraping together a home lab. i know
> > that for the 2500 series
> > routers you neet 16/16 ram to accomodate the enterprise
> > ios. does anyone know
> > if there are any limitations to the 2500's as far as the
> > enterprise images are
> > concerned? is there the possibility that the 2500's may
> > not be supported in
> > the next couple of image releases?
> >
> > thanks in advance!!!
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John D. Matus
> > MCSE, CCNP
> > Office: 818-782-2061
> > Cell: 818-430-8372
> > jmatus@pacbell.net
> >
> >
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