From: John Matus (jmatus@pacbell.net)
Date: Sat Nov 27 2004 - 18:20:56 GMT-3
wow, i had no idea that the 2500's were really "obsolete". is there a 12.3
image for them? (i'm a bit confused as to how one knows if a model is
obsolete).
so isis is a problem then on the 2500's, eh? the 12.2 enterprise image does
not suffice?
Regards,
John D. Matus
MCSE, CCNP
Office: 818-782-2061
Cell: 818-430-8372
jmatus@pacbell.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Stevenson" <grant.h.stevenson@virgin.net>
To: "Koen Peetermans" <K.Peetermans@chello.be>; "'Keane, James'"
<James.Keane@agriculture.gov.ie>; "'John Matus'" <jmatus@pacbell.net>;
"'lab'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: home labs - obsolete 2500's
> The biggest problem you will have is when you need to run ISIS, and say
> MQS.
> You will need to load certain version for one, and the other won't work.
> I had this issue while studying Brian's IEWB_RS stuff.
> I suggest the lowest end router you get is a 2610. At least you
> have some flexibility and upgrade path.
>
> On the plus side, if you can live with the limitations, their bloody cheap
> :-)
>
> I know have 12 of them that are obsolete, and not worth selling as it will
> cost me more
> to post them that what they are now worth on ebay.
>
>
> Good luck
>
> PS, I upgraded for one reason, when I wanted to study, I got really
> annoyed
> that what was
> expected was not happening, and this hindered my study.
>
> AS the Lab cost you a ?1000 a shot, you might as well bite the bullet and
> buy the kit.
> Once you pass you can always reseel it on ebay (if its worth much when
> your
> done!)
>
>
> Regards Grant
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Koen Peetermans
> Sent: 27 November 2004 15:46
> To: 'Keane, James'; 'John Matus'; 'lab'
> Subject: RE: home labs - obsolete 2500's
>
>
> Indeed; Don't throw them away just yet; apart from using them as a
> frame-relay switch (eventually combine the frame-relay switching and
> Backbone route generator in one box), a 2511 will just do nicely as
> terminal
> server (also possible to combine it as being a backbone router).
> As a route generator, 12.2 Release Enterprise will do just fine, no 12.2T
> needed.
>
> It's true that you will no be able to get all features on a 2500, but if
> you
> know ALL the features possible on a 2500 you'd already be an expert.
>
> 80% of the knowledge needed can be trained on a 2500, for the other 20%
> get
> one or two 2600(XM's), or hire a remote lab for some days.
>
> If you don't want to throw all your money out of the window, get low-end,
> low-cost material at home (so you can train whenever you want), and get
> sessions on remote racks for stuff like ATM.
>
> For example, I invested in voice stuff before my lab, only to have come to
> the conclusion afterwards I'd been much better (cheaper) off practicing
> for
> a couple of days on a remote lab.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Koen.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Keane, James
> Sent: zaterdag 27 november 2004 16:06
> To: John Matus; groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; lab
> Subject: RE: home labs - obsolete 2500's
>
> On the up side -
>
> I have used 3 2504's that were due for destruction and linked them with a
> Cabletron hub (similar fate).
> I brought them home and made a frame relay compound switch which gives 2
> frame relay clouds and three interfaces per cloud.
> Of course you need to get a few back to back cables and black boxes (6 in
> total)
>
> My configuration was adapted from the internetworkexpert white paper
> (which
> uses a 2501 and 2520)
> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/resources/compound.frame-relay.htm (well
> done Brian Dennis & co)
>
> So don't chuck those 2500's just yet !
>
>
> James Keane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Matus [mailto:jmatus@pacbell.net]
> Sent: 27 November 2004 04:08
> To: groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; 'lab'
> Subject: Re: home labs
>
>
> are you sure about that tony?
>
> Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-IS-L), Version 12.2(15)T9, RELEASE SOFTWARE
> (fc2)
>
> is the T9 a "T" version?
>
> Regards,
>
> John D. Matus
> MCSE, CCNP
> Office: 818-782-2061
> Cell: 818-430-8372
> jmatus@pacbell.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Schaffran" <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>
> To: "'John Matus'" <jmatus@pacbell.net>; "'lab'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:55 PM
> Subject: RE: home labs
>
>
> Actually, the 2500's are pretty much obsolete now. There is not a 12.2T
> Enterprise for the 2500.
>
> Tony Schaffran
> Network Analyst
> CCIE #11071
> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>
> www.cconlinelabs.com
> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> John
> Matus
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:09 PM
> To: lab
> Subject: home labs
>
> i'm thinking of scraping together a home lab. i know that for the 2500
> series
> routers you neet 16/16 ram to accomodate the enterprise ios. does anyone
> know
> if there are any limitations to the 2500's as far as the enterprise images
> are
> concerned? is there the possibility that the 2500's may not be supported
> in
> the next couple of image releases?
>
> thanks in advance!!!
>
>
> Regards,
>
> John D. Matus
> MCSE, CCNP
> Office: 818-782-2061
> Cell: 818-430-8372
> jmatus@pacbell.net
>
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