From: Phil (theccie@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Nov 18 2004 - 03:31:44 GMT-3
John,
I disagree. I am preparing for my Security lab. The first thing I did
after I passed the written was to order a hard copy of the Cisco IOS
Security Configuration Guide and Command Reference, Release 12.2:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fsecur_c/index.htm
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fsecur_r/index.htm
Which are in the Online CD. After reading those I will read the PIX
6.3, IDS 4.1 and VPN 4.1 Configuration Guides as well (no hardcopies
though). Super extra boring reading but, nevertheless, must reads in
my opinion. Sure enough I will never remember all the commands but,
most important, I will have some information about the commands
descriptions memorized and hopefully during the lab it will come back
should the weird questions arise. After I am done with all this
reading I will begin with the good fun labs.
Good luck on your next attempt and remember: you only need to know 80%
of what they are asking in the lab!
Phil
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 01:00:13 -0500, Brian Dennis
<bdennis@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> John,
> Did you read the books on Cisco's recommended reading list?
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/ccie/rs/book_list.html
>
> If so you would have run across the nagle algorithm. Issues
> with buffering keystrokes in a telnet session and mouse movements with
> XWindows is referenced in a couple of the books from the recommended
> reading list.
>
> As a side note reading books like "Internetworking with TCP/IP"
> by Comer or "TCP/IP Illustrated: Volume 1" by Stevens which are on the
> recommended reading list would make answering a question like that very
> easy. I personally have every edition of both of these books. I would
> consider them a must read along with "Interconnections: Bridges &
> Routers" by Perlman. No one can truly call themselves an IE
> (internetwork expert) without reading these books or at a minimum have
> them on their bookshelves ;-)
>
> Another one that you might consider reading is called "The
> Internet and Its Protocols" by Adrian Farrel. I'm currently reading it
> myself.
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> John Matus
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:25 PM
> To: none; 'lab'
> Subject: Re: got spanked on second attempt
>
> thanks for the advice.
> i think at this point i'm pretty up on the theory and whatnot behind
> each of
> the core topics. unfortunately, to give an illustrative example, if you
>
> have never seen the command 'service nagle', you won't know what to do
> if a
> question comes up about buffering telnet keystrokes <or something like
> that>, it's just raw experience of seeing the command and knowing what
> it
> does.
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> John D. Matus
> MCSE, CCNP
> Office: 818-782-2061
> Cell: 818-430-8372
> jmatus@pacbell.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "none" <alsontra@hotmail.com>
> To: "'John Matus'" <jmatus@pacbell.net>; "'lab'"
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:10 PM
> Subject: RE: got spanked on second attempt
>
> >
> > Hi John Matus,
> >
> >
> > That's the way the test goes... Keep your mind in the game and don't
> let
> > too many days go by before you re-engage. One additional comment
> > regarding
> > the following statement:
> >
> > "new lab vendor (brians', your labs are great, but i've memorized them
> at
> > this point) and keep shooting for the stars....."
> >
> > At some point you're bound to have this problem. I suggest that you
> dig
> > into each topic covered in the labs and or the CCIE blueprint. Re-read
> > explanations, you'll often find that there are subtle details that
> will
> > lead
> > you to greater understandings. And don't stop there... IE has posted
> CCO
> > links to all of the topics covered in their labs.
> >
> >
> (http://www.internetworkexpert.com/resources/iewb-rs-further-reading.htm
> )
> >
> > After you complete a section, try and master the technology.
> > CCO/GS/WB/RFC/etc, be overly prepared. You might also check out the IE
> > technology labs. I've just recently started using them, and
> personally I
> > think there awesome.
> >
> > My next step is upgrading the IE workbook. I'm told there's some new
> > content
> > and support for IPv6. You might want to check them out if you hungry
> for
> > new
> > material...
> >
> > You only fail if you quit trying...
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > 0.02
> > Alsontra
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > John
> > Matus
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 3:31 PM
> > To: lab
> > Subject: got spanked on second attempt
> >
> > hi all,
> > well, i failed my first attempt with dignity, but got seriously
> spanked on
> > my
> > second attempt yesterday in san jose. i believe there were a number
> of
> > factors leading to my failure.
> >
> > i was lucky enuf to get a lab date 6 weeks after my first attempt -
> > someone
> > dropped and i just happened to be in the right place at the right
> time.
> > unfortunately, i was unable to book online rack time because the
> vendors
> > tend
> > to be booked a month in advance so my studying was limited to writing
> out
> > the
> > configs on paper and checking the solution guide <internetwork
> expert>.
> > because of the 6 weeks without actual hands-on practice, i got a bit
> > rusty
> > w/
> > regard to some particular subtle nuances in a few areas and wasted
> about
> > 3-4
> > hours on tasks that should have only taken me about 1/2 hour. man was
>
> > this
> > frustrating. that was coupled with some really off the wall questions
>
> > that
> > were throw at me that i had never seen before and had absolutely no
> idea
> > how
> > to possible solve them.
> >
> > it became apparent 2/3 thru the test that i wasn't going to pass so i
> just
> > took a deep breath and decided to no give up and to see if i could
> solve
> > the
> > problems that i was having so at least i could leave with a shred of
> > dignity.
> > ultimately i was able to fix my blunders but that left absolutely no
> time
> > to
> > try and attempt the questions that were really 'over-the-top'.
> >
> > in the end, i just had 'one-of-those-days' and 'one-of-those-labs'.
> as
> > they
> > say, we endorse for the efforts and not for the results (if you want
> to
> > keep
> > your mental health anyways). i think my new strategy is going to be
> to
> > get
> > some consistent racktime and try a new lab vendor (brians', your labs
> are
> > great, but i've memorized them at this point) and keep shooting for
> the
> > stars.....
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John D. Matus
> > MCSE, CCNP
> > Office: 818-782-2061
> > Cell: 818-430-8372
> > jmatus@pacbell.net
> >
> >
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