RE: got spanked on second attempt

From: Brian Dennis (bdennis@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Thu Nov 18 2004 - 03:00:13 GMT-3


John,
        Did you read the books on Cisco's recommended reading list?

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/ccie/rs/book_list.html

         If so you would have run across the nagle algorithm. Issues
with buffering keystrokes in a telnet session and mouse movements with
XWindows is referenced in a couple of the books from the recommended
reading list.

        As a side note reading books like "Internetworking with TCP/IP"
by Comer or "TCP/IP Illustrated: Volume 1" by Stevens which are on the
recommended reading list would make answering a question like that very
easy. I personally have every edition of both of these books. I would
consider them a must read along with "Interconnections: Bridges &
Routers" by Perlman. No one can truly call themselves an IE
(internetwork expert) without reading these books or at a minimum have
them on their bookshelves ;-)

        Another one that you might consider reading is called "The
Internet and Its Protocols" by Adrian Farrel. I'm currently reading it
myself.

Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
 
Internetwork Expert, Inc.
http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
Toll Free: 877-224-8987
Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
John Matus
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:25 PM
To: none; 'lab'
Subject: Re: got spanked on second attempt

thanks for the advice.
i think at this point i'm pretty up on the theory and whatnot behind
each of
the core topics. unfortunately, to give an illustrative example, if you

have never seen the command 'service nagle', you won't know what to do
if a
question comes up about buffering telnet keystrokes <or something like
that>, it's just raw experience of seeing the command and knowing what
it
does.

Regards,

John D. Matus
MCSE, CCNP
Office: 818-782-2061
Cell: 818-430-8372
jmatus@pacbell.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "none" <alsontra@hotmail.com>
To: "'John Matus'" <jmatus@pacbell.net>; "'lab'"
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:10 PM
Subject: RE: got spanked on second attempt

>
> Hi John Matus,
>
>
> That's the way the test goes... Keep your mind in the game and don't
let
> too many days go by before you re-engage. One additional comment
> regarding
> the following statement:
>
> "new lab vendor (brians', your labs are great, but i've memorized them
at
> this point) and keep shooting for the stars....."
>
> At some point you're bound to have this problem. I suggest that you
dig
> into each topic covered in the labs and or the CCIE blueprint. Re-read
> explanations, you'll often find that there are subtle details that
will
> lead
> you to greater understandings. And don't stop there... IE has posted
CCO
> links to all of the topics covered in their labs.
>
>
(http://www.internetworkexpert.com/resources/iewb-rs-further-reading.htm
)
>
> After you complete a section, try and master the technology.
> CCO/GS/WB/RFC/etc, be overly prepared. You might also check out the IE
> technology labs. I've just recently started using them, and
personally I
> think there awesome.
>
> My next step is upgrading the IE workbook. I'm told there's some new
> content
> and support for IPv6. You might want to check them out if you hungry
for
> new
> material...
>
> You only fail if you quit trying...
>
> ;-)
>
> 0.02
> Alsontra
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> John
> Matus
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 3:31 PM
> To: lab
> Subject: got spanked on second attempt
>
> hi all,
> well, i failed my first attempt with dignity, but got seriously
spanked on
> my
> second attempt yesterday in san jose. i believe there were a number
of
> factors leading to my failure.
>
> i was lucky enuf to get a lab date 6 weeks after my first attempt -
> someone
> dropped and i just happened to be in the right place at the right
time.
> unfortunately, i was unable to book online rack time because the
vendors
> tend
> to be booked a month in advance so my studying was limited to writing
out
> the
> configs on paper and checking the solution guide <internetwork
expert>.
> because of the 6 weeks without actual hands-on practice, i got a bit
> rusty
> w/
> regard to some particular subtle nuances in a few areas and wasted
about
> 3-4
> hours on tasks that should have only taken me about 1/2 hour. man was

> this
> frustrating. that was coupled with some really off the wall questions

> that
> were throw at me that i had never seen before and had absolutely no
idea
> how
> to possible solve them.
>
> it became apparent 2/3 thru the test that i wasn't going to pass so i
just
> took a deep breath and decided to no give up and to see if i could
solve
> the
> problems that i was having so at least i could leave with a shred of
> dignity.
> ultimately i was able to fix my blunders but that left absolutely no
time
> to
> try and attempt the questions that were really 'over-the-top'.
>
> in the end, i just had 'one-of-those-days' and 'one-of-those-labs'.
as
> they
> say, we endorse for the efforts and not for the results (if you want
to
> keep
> your mental health anyways). i think my new strategy is going to be
to
> get
> some consistent racktime and try a new lab vendor (brians', your labs
are
> great, but i've memorized them at this point) and keep shooting for
the
> stars.....
>
>
> Regards,
>
> John D. Matus
> MCSE, CCNP
> Office: 818-782-2061
> Cell: 818-430-8372
> jmatus@pacbell.net
>
>



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