From: joshua lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Sep 11 2004 - 11:37:11 GMT-3
I agree,
college should be a primary focus, I'm currently going to school, doing the
military thing and pursuing certs...Every decent job I've looked at required
a degree as well as certifications. Doesnt mattter what it's in, as long as
you have that piece of paper. Also, If you have a security clearance...this
is gold to employers, especially around the D.C. area.
josh
Josh Lauer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
To: <hcb@gettcomm.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: Failed RS lab [7:92677]
> Considering that many employers won't even look at a resume these days if
> you do not have a college degree of some sort on there, I would think that
> should be a primary goal to complete.
>
> Industry membership is nice. Notoriety certainly helps, but all it takes
> is
> one hard-nosed HR person to quash the hiring of the most experiences
> person
> by not being able to check off a required box of "college degree" or
> something like that.
>
> The degree you have doesn't necessarily need to reflect your area of
> expertise. I'm a journalism/photojournalism major, and it's not caused
> any
> issues to this point. But having the college degree helps.
>
> With the economy where it is, many (read: not all) employers are setting
> higher standards and are generally able to stick to them. Look at your
> target job market though, do some research. Decide what it is that you
> want
> to do and then figure out what is necessary to get there! Sometimes in
> our
> professional life we make little pit-stops along the way that may not make
> a
> whole lot of sense but are necessary to make the journey smoother.
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, CISSP,
> JNCIP, et al.
> IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
> IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
> http://www.ipexpert.net
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> hcb@gettcomm.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 1:49 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Failed RS lab [7:92677]
>
> Quoting Cisco Nuts <cisconuts@hotmail.com>:
>
>> Well said..Mike...
>>
>> I have been on this forum for over 6 years and time after time, I read
>> about people who either are bashing the CCIE program or/and College
>> education!! I am sick and tired from hearing from these losers!! The
>> grapes are sour, my friend....is the only thing I can tell these guys!!
>
> I am not intending to "bash." I am trying to inject a note of reality
> into
> quite a number of recent posts on what it means to know a technology.
>>
>> There is simply one thing and only one thing:
>>
>> Have/Get Both !!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>
> Or, either in addition to or instead of, do other things to gain status in
> one's industry. Get active in professional societies (ACM, IEEE).
> Participate in the IETF or NANOG, if just on mailing lists. Speak at trade
> conferences and write for the industry press.
>
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