From: joshua lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Sep 04 2004 - 06:35:08 GMT-3
Someone mentioned in another forum that 39/40 were almost harder than the
real thing...Dont know how true that is though. My goal is to nail those two
labs down (after all the others) My feeling is that if I can do all the labs
in the book and have a better than average understanding of the technology
behind it I'm about halfway there. The rest will all be psychological I'm
sure, trying to decypher Cisco weirdness on the test is probably going to be
the hardest part. I'm concentrating right now on learning the Doc CD and
were everything is, I've been living in that CD for several weeks and trying
to find the most obscure stuff and fast. Hopefully it will pay off when it
counts.
josh
Josh Lauer
----- Original Message -----
From: "James" <james@towardex.com>
To: <tycampbell@comcast.net>
Cc: "Wayne Lawson" <groupstudy@ipexpert.net>; "john matijevic"
<matijevi@bellsouth.net>; "'Joseph D. Phillips'"
<josephdphillips@fastmail.us>; "'Eric Hoffman'" <skeetin@hotmail.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE # 13843
> On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 07:31:21PM +0000, tycampbell@comcast.net wrote:
> > IPExpert rocks!!!...
> > Everything in the workbook was on the lab...actually the workbook was
harder than the real lab. Oh...and I know at least one person that has
passed the lab that hasn't told Wayne yet :-)
> > All he used was IPExpert....and he had less than 5 attempts...
>
> The labs 39 and 40 on IPExpert version 6.0 workbook was the disasterous
nightmare
> of my life -- in other words, it was so hard and challenging (which is
very good!)
>
> I am happy with the workbook so far. Combined with new Cisco's prac labs,
I feel
> good :)
>
> -J
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> >
> > > Wow John, nothing like earning your CCIE number (after 5 attempts) and
then
> > > jumping
> > > right into the market like you're the king of the hill - all of this
while
> > > passively cutting
> > > down established (and successful) vendors and CCIE's with lower
numbers...
> > >
> > > Regarding your comments on our (IPexpert) products - I'd like you to
try to
> > > explain to me
> > > how our workbook is outdated or irrelevant - as you seem to claim
below. In
> > > case you
> > > weren't aware - the CCIE Lab did contain ISDN, Frame Relay, RIP and
OSPF several
> > > years
> > > ago...(Actually you're probably aware....when did you begin your IE
prep - and
> > > take your 1st
> > > attempt?). Some technologies and protocols remain the same while some
change.
> > > There isn't
> > > and wasn't a need for us to rewrite our product - as you claim. People
are
> > > using it today,
> > > and they're still successful - as you saw below - from this original
post.
> > >
> > > Also, when and if you ever get more than a few students who attend
your course
> > > - you'll
> > > realize that it becomes nearly impossible to track students. We have
several
> > > hundred
> > > students who have attended our classes over the past year - and less
than 15% of
> > > them
> > > report back to us, so the fact that you're trying to use a "success
rate"
> > > formula just won't
> > > provide the needed feedback.
> > >
> > > Be careful who and where you run your mouth....a guy just starting out
as a
> > > CCIE instructor,
> > > (again - after taking 5 attempts to pass) really doesn't rate enough
to begin
> > > bashing
> > > established vendors with IE's on staff who are triple or quad
certified. If you
> > > want to run
> > > and establish a successful business - do it with character and ethics.
Don't
> > > cut down your
> > > competition on public newsgroups or mailing lists like some of these
vendors do
> > > - earn your
> > > respect and keep your mouth shut - your work, products or services
will speak
> > > for themselves.
> > > Spend the time, money and effort to establish a sales and marketing
plan - quit
> > > using a public
> > > mailing list as your means of reaching customers. it's cheap and
overdone on
> > > this newslist!
> > >
> > > Wayne Lawson
> > > President - IPexpert, Inc.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original message-----
> > > From: "john matijevic" matijevi@bellsouth.net
> > > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:56:56 -0400
> > > To: "'Joseph D. Phillips'" josephdphillips@fastmail.us
> > > Subject: RE: CCIE # 13843
> > >
> > > > Hello Eric,
> > > > Congratulations for passing the exam even though it took you 6
times. I
> > > > had to take the exam 5 times to pass. I had a similar experience to
you
> > > > I had purchased several workbooks, but I attended more than 1 boot
camp.
> > > > I attended Netmaster and Internetworkexpert mock lab workshop as
well as
> > > > the IPexpert audio boot camp. Even though I did not attend
Cyscoexpert,
> > > > I did research them and felt that they were really overcharging. And
> > > > that they gave some students different prices than others, I don't
think
> > > > that is fair to do to customers. Also the big problem is with the
boot
> > > > camps, is that they don't tell you what there passing rate is. This
to
> > > > me is very important factor, I want to know how many people pass
after
> > > > attending the boot camp. It is a shame that you have to fail so many
> > > > times in order to pass like I did. I really can sympathize, the
problem
> > > > with many of the boot camps out there and the workbook vendors is
that
> > > > they made there boot camp courses or workbooks years ago, and they
got
> > > > their ccie years ago(look at their CCIE numbers), so they try and
update
> > > > their workbooks but the problem is that the original topologies,
tasks
> > > > etc, are still left over. Yes I purchased IPexpert as well, again my
> > > > feelings are that those labs were originated years ago, and they did
not
> > > > completely rewrite the entire book, even though they have now
proctor
> > > > guide and have several new labs. I am very proud to start my course,
> > > > because I have very current CCIE only 3 months, and I took exam so
many
> > > > times, that I have very good idea of what exam is about. I don't
waste
> > > > your time studying material that won't be tested on, and more
> > > > importantly I am not going to overcharge you, like some of the other
> > > > boot camps. Good Luck in your career endeavors as well!!!
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > John Matijevic, CCIE #13254, MCSE, CNE, CCEA
> > > > CEO
> > > > IgorTek Inc.
> > > > 151 Crandon Blvd. #402
> > > > Key Biscayne, FL 33149
> > > > Hablo Espanol
> > > > 305-321-6232
> > > > http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-CCIE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> > > > Joseph D. Phillips
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 11:49 AM
> > > > To: Eric Hoffman
> > > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > Subject: Re: CCIE # 13843
> > > >
> > > > Very good. Congratulations, from a boob that's flunked 4x. :)
> > > >
> > > >
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