From: joshua lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Sep 03 2004 - 18:45:56 GMT-3
Well said,
also, it's amazing who you run into at global knowledge classes :) some
people that even frequent these boards, I even saw the founder at global
although he probably has no clue who I am :) I'm there enough to become a
permanent fixture though.
cheers and have a great holiday, I'm working the labs this weekend...the
studying and practicing never stops. Having a holiday means just one more
day of study for me
Josh Lauer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
To: "'john matijevic'" <matijevi@bellsouth.net>; "'Joseph D. Phillips'"
<josephdphillips@fastmail.us>; "'Eric Hoffman'" <skeetin@hotmail.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 3:35 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE # 13843
> Now John....
>
> Don't you think we're being a little harsh here? I mean, it WAS us old
fart
> CCIEs who helped you get your own and strive to understand things, was it
> not?
>
> As I'm sure you'll figure out, given the whole NDA thing at all, there's a
> fine line between "accurate" labs and a "copy of the real lab" that you
need
> to be sure not to cross. It would be a shame to see a loss of the CCIE
> number that was a proud achievement not to long ago. Topic-wise, what are
> the rest of us missing?
>
> Also, we are a small community here. All in all, most people run into
> others multiple times throughout their career. It would probably be a
> better idea for you to gain a reputation by developing a superior product
> and working to beat all the rest of us out of the market rather than
sending
> e-mail expressing your unfounded bad taste.
>
> Market, don't blast! Besides, I don't believe that Eric will be taking
your
> class as he doesn't need it any more! :)
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, CISSP,
> JNCIP, et al. (Outdated kinda guy)
> IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
> IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
> http://www.ipexpert.net
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
john
> matijevic
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 1:57 PM
> To: 'Joseph D. Phillips'; 'Eric Hoffman'
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE # 13843
>
> Hello Eric,
> Congratulations for passing the exam even though it took you 6 times. I
had
> to take the exam 5 times to pass. I had a similar experience to you I had
> purchased several workbooks, but I attended more than 1 boot camp.
> I attended Netmaster and Internetworkexpert mock lab workshop as well as
the
> IPexpert audio boot camp. Even though I did not attend Cyscoexpert, I did
> research them and felt that they were really overcharging. And that they
> gave some students different prices than others, I don't think that is
fair
> to do to customers. Also the big problem is with the boot camps, is that
> they don't tell you what there passing rate is. This to me is very
important
> factor, I want to know how many people pass after attending the boot camp.
> It is a shame that you have to fail so many times in order to pass like I
> did. I really can sympathize, the problem with many of the boot camps out
> there and the workbook vendors is that they made there boot camp courses
or
> workbooks years ago, and they got their ccie years ago(look at their CCIE
> numbers), so they try and update their workbooks but the problem is that
the
> original topologies, tasks etc, are still left over. Yes I purchased
> IPexpert as well, again my feelings are that those labs were originated
> years ago, and they did not completely rewrite the entire book, even
though
> they have now proctor guide and have several new labs. I am very proud to
> start my course, because I have very current CCIE only 3 months, and I
took
> exam so many times, that I have very good idea of what exam is about. I
> don't waste your time studying material that won't be tested on, and more
> importantly I am not going to overcharge you, like some of the other boot
> camps. Good Luck in your career endeavors as well!!!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John Matijevic, CCIE #13254, MCSE, CNE, CCEA CEO IgorTek Inc.
> 151 Crandon Blvd. #402
> Key Biscayne, FL 33149
> Hablo Espanol
> 305-321-6232
> http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-CCIE
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Joseph D. Phillips
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 11:49 AM
> To: Eric Hoffman
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE # 13843
>
> Very good. Congratulations, from a boob that's flunked 4x. :)
>
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