From: joshua lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Aug 30 2004 - 18:46:56 GMT-3
I was feeling really frisky one day, decided to try ipexpert's lab 40 in the
book (that's the last one). I guess I was really made of nothing as 8 hours
into it I was only half done (although to toot my own horn, I did fairly
well on that half :) I feel that If I can successfully navigate all the labs
in the book and REALLY understand the technologies then I'm ready for the
lab. That's my gameplan and I have 8 months to do it in. CISCO was even nice
enough to let me use their customer labs during the week in Herndon :) What
nice guys! (Of course we buy alot of stuff from them:)
josh
Josh Lauer
----- Original Message -----
From: <samccie2004@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "'Richard Dumoulin'" <Richard.Dumoulin@vanco.fr>; "'Cisco Nuts'"
<cisconuts@hotmail.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 4:00 PM
Subject: RE: RE : RE : Cisco Press Routing and Switchling Lab book
> Hi Richard and group
>
>
> I think that was a compliment! to say that the labs were so hard and
> demanding.
> I did Brian's 5 days mock labs, we all hated the last one cos it made
> some of us realise how unprepared we were.
>
> Truth is sometimes painful, but I would rather have that then waste
> $1250.
>
> Regards
>
> Sam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Richard Dumoulin
> Sent: 30 August 2004 21:51
> To: Cisco Nuts
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE : RE : Cisco Press Routing and Switchling Lab book
>
> Cisco Nuts,
>
> We are here to give opinions, advices ... and I really don't see any
> reason
> for your lack of respect,
>
> --Richard
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Cisco Nuts [mailto:cisconuts@hotmail.com]
> Envoyi : Monday, August 30, 2004 9:06 PM
> @ : bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> Cc : ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Objet : RE: RE : Cisco Press Routing and Switchling Lab book
>
> Very well said...Sir!!
>
> Your labs definitely teach you to do just that and your R&S class too...
>
> I hate your labs... BTW.....they have broken me down - mentally and
> physically :-)
>
> As Brian Dennis appropriately said:
>
> 1. Fall back to the BASICS !!!!
>
> 2. What is the default ??
>
> These 2 principles is something I will live with for a very long time -
> CCIE or NOT !!
>
> Sincerely...
>
> >From: "Brian McGahan" <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com> >Reply-To:
> "Brian McGahan" <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com> >To: "Thomas Larus"
> <tlarus@cox.net>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com> >Subject: RE: RE : Cisco
> Press
> Routing and Switchling Lab book >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:00:57 -0400 >
> > I disagree. Putting configuration statements there just for the >sake
> of it shows a lack of understanding of the technology. With this >logic
> why not just put all commands in and see what happens? > > This is the
> same case of trying to apply general rules to >configuration, like
> always
> use loopback peerings in BGP or always use >the no peer neighbor-route
> command. While there certainly are >appropriate cases for these
> configurations, the key to passing the lab >is to understand the WHY of
> using them. > > > >Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
> >bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com > >Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >http://www.InternetworkExpert.com >Toll Free: 877-224-8987 x 705
> >Outside US: 775-826-4344 x 705 >24/7 Support:
> http://forum.internetworkexpert.com >Live Chat:
> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/chat/ > > > > -----Original
> Message----- > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf >Of > > Thomas Larus > > Sent:
> Sunday, August 29, 2004 5:56 PM > > To: john matijevic; 'Richard
> Dumoulin'; ccielab@groupstudy.com > > Subject: Re: RE : Cisco Press
> Routing and Switchling Lab book > > > > John and Richard: > > > > Having
> the broadcast keyword at the end of all of your frame relay map > >
> statements is "bad form," but it is not necessarily a bad thing, > >
> altogether. > > > > Richard was one of the technical reviewers for my
> new
> book, along with >Joe > > Rothstein, and you can imagine how helpful it
> was for these two >network > > engineers to work through the scenarios
> with their keen eye for >detail. > > Both Richard and Joe noticed that I
> had used "broadcast" where it was >not > > needed, and since they both
> mentioned this, I improved my config files >by > > removing "broadcast"
> where it was not needed. Thus, I confess to >being > > one > > of those
> practice scenario writers who, left to his own devices, would >put > >
> "broadcast" on frame relay map statements where it is not needed, and >
> >
> would > > also engage in many other acts of "overconfiguration." I
> firmly
> stand >by > > most of my overconfiguration, but I recongnize that this
> particular >bit of > > "overconfiguration" or "bad form" can make one
> look bad. > > > > Still, there is something to to be said for this kind
> of > > overconfiguration. > > If you do it this way, you do not have to
> worry about making a mistake >and > > leaving off the broadcast keyword
> where it is needed. What if you are > > configuring your frame relay
> cloud in the Lab exam, and you try to be > > careful about putting
> "broadcast" only where it is needed, but you are >not > > quite careful
> enough, for you leave it off the DLCI that really needed >it? > > It is
> very easy to make this sort of mistake, and it is a mistake that > >
> could > > really cause practical problems. > > > > It does not take much
> imagination to see how a mistake like this could > > cause > > you to
> lose many points and much time. > > > > All in all, it may actually be
> safer to overconfigure, and have >something > > in > > your configs that
> reeks of "bad form." > > > > I am not a proctor, so I cannot be certain
> that there might not be a > > downside to this sort of "bad form" or
> "overconfiguration." Perhaps >some > > picky proctor would look at this
> sort of overconfiguration and say, >"this > > candidate's use of the
> 'broadcast' keyword where it is not needed >suggests > > to me that the
> candidate may not fully understand what is going on >here." > > However,
> what I have read of Cisco's official word on the Lab exam > > suggests >
> > that the Lab is graded largely on practical results. Sometimes I
> >think > > that > > real world "good form" and "best practices" are
> largely incompatible >with > > the world of CCIE lab preparation. > > >
> >
> Best regards, > > > > Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014 > > Author of the CCIE
> Warm-Up e-books from www.ipexpert.com, and also >"Basic > > Cisco
> Secuirty Exercises for Pix Firewall, IOS Firewall, and Access > >
> Control
> > > Server," at http://www.lulu.com/content/59374 > > > > > > -----
> Original Message ----- > > From: "john matijevic"
> <matijevi@bellsouth.net> > > To: "'Richard Dumoulin'"
> <Richard.Dumoulin@vanco.fr>; > > <ccielab@groupstudy.com> > > Sent:
> Sunday, August 29, 2004 1:26 PM > > Subject: RE: RE : Cisco Press
> Routing
> and Switchling Lab book > > > > > > > Hello Richard, > > > I have
> configured with and without the broadcast keyword as you have > > >
> mentioned. I really have not noticed a difference. One could argue >that
> > > > it uses unnecessary bandwidth in the real world. However, there
> are > > > many lab vendor books that due use the broadcast keyword. The
> point > > > being is that this book has so many valuable tools and
> lessons >learned. > > > I think by going through the labs and going
> through the entire book, >you > > > will find that it is of the highest
> quality. There are other minor > > > errors with the book, I was just
> making overall assessment when I >posted > > > this email. Again, I
> really love this book. I think it is the best > > > resource available,
> and if you need rack time I am offering my rack >and > > > forum area
> for
> support. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > John Matijevic, CCIE #13254,
> MCSE, CNE, CCEA > > > CEO > > > IgorTek Inc. > > > 151 Crandon Blvd.
> #402
> > > > Key Biscayne, FL 33149 > > > Hablo Espanol > > > 305-321-6232 > >
> >
> http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-CCIE > > > > > > > > > -----Original
> Message----- > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf >Of > > > Richard Dumoulin > >
> >
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 5:52 AM > > > To: john matijevic;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com > > > Subject: RE : Cisco Press Routing and
> Switchling Lab book > > > > > > One thing I have noticed is that the
> author configure "broadcast" in >the > > > frame-relay map's between
> spokes in a frame-relay hub and spoke > > > scenario. > > > I am not
> sure
> this is good practice and we all know that broadcasts >are > > > not > >
> > forwarded by the hub and it therefore does not make sense, > > > > > >
> --Richard > > > > > > > > >
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