From: Howard C. Berkowitz (hcb@gettcomm.com)
Date: Sat Aug 21 2004 - 23:04:03 GMT-3
At 8:21 PM -0500 8/21/04, Jason Graun wrote:
>Amen, brother. The problem is there are not many newbies that have never
>worked on a real network before so they don't have any real experience. I
>also agree that a lot of the questions on this list are remedial things any
>network person worth a damn should know. I guess a lot of people here have
>been too lazy to read the information necessary to understand the concept.
>
>Jason
I don't know how often it helps and how often it hurts, but I find
that when I answer a question, I tend to give a somewhat indirect
answer. By indirect, in the case of, say, why does protocol XX have
PDU YY, I will answer with the underlying choices that went into the
actual design of the protocol. This gets closer to what I call
"theory" than many other people.
"Theory", to a lot of people, seems to be something that doesn't
directly involve a configuration command, but perhaps deals with what
will get sent back in response to some particular protocol packet.
To me, the theoretical network basis is much more "why was the
algorithm or heuristic chosen that implements that particular PDU
exchange."
To me, for example, a great many problems in redistribution clear up
when I back off and say "what loop prevention mechanism need I
implement? What features for loop prevention exist in the routing
protocols, and how does redistribution defeat them?" I also try to
use more precise terminology, such as advertise and accept rather
than redistribute. Getting familiar with the Routing Protocol
Specification Language isn't just of value for BGP; it lets you have
a high-level view of why routing protocols and policies do what they
do.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>McCallum, Robert
>Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 4:22 PM
>To: ccie@groupstudy.com; 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
>Subject: Off Topic - is this list becoming BORING
>
>Folks,
>
>While I was studying for my CCIE I used to post real life events on oddities
>and such. So did Chuck and Howard, however over the last year I cant really
>be bothered answering at least 90% of the questions that are posted. This is
>because
>
>a) They obviously cant be bothered searching the archives.
>b) They obviously cant be bothered searching www.cisco.com
>
>I might just becoming to the end of my shelf life on this study group but I
>would like to know the thoughts of others. I used to see this list as one
>of the greatest lists for not just the CCIE program but real life oddities
>as well. Now all I seem to be on is the Cisco netpro (especially on the
>service provider questions).
>
>P.S. Am I now one of the dinosaurs with a < 5 number CCIE?
>
>
>Robert McCallum
>CCIE #8757 R&S
>
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